A Credible Global warming Scientist!

[charlz]

According to the National Academy of Sciences, the phrase "climate change" is growing in preferred use to "global warming" because it helps convey that there are other changes in addition to rising temperatures. Global warming can be considered part of climate change along with changes in precipitation, sea level,

some cooling, prolonged cooling, another ice age. "Climate Change" covers all the funding bases in a way that "Global Warming" just couldn't

 

[rekees4300]

I think the funding argument that skeptics use is just a red herring. Sure their are some folks who make their living studying "climate change" and they have a vested interest in perpetuating the issue. However, I don't think it's some huge scam to bilk taxpayers. When I see glaciers, Greenland, and the polar ice caps melting that's "proof" enough for me that climate change is real regardless of what anybody says.

 

[brin]

rekees, consider the probability the melting you refer to , hotter temps or colder temps, increased hurricanes or floods as just part of the earths cycle having to do with changing water temps in the oceans among other factors.

 

[Tractor Beam]

I think the funding argument that skeptics use is just a red herring. Sure their are some folks who make their living studying "climate change" and they have a vested interest in perpetuating the issue. However, I don't think it's some huge scam to bilk taxpayers. When I see glaciers, Greenland, and the polar ice caps melting that's "proof" enough for me that climate change is real regardless of what anybody says.

Well.....Facts is facts! And ya's can't argue with pictures nor facts!

 

[brin]

Well.....Facts is facts! And ya's can't argue with pictures nor facts!

tractor beam...consider this fact in your thought process >
Al Gore could become world's first carbon billionaire - Telegraph

 

[Tractor Beam]

rekees, consider the probability the melting you refer to , hotter temps or colder temps, increased hurricanes or floods as just part of the earths cycle having to do with changing water temps in the oceans among other factors.

This is certainly true. The earth has endured these cycles before, no doubt. But according to science, this cycle we are experiencing now is by far the worst. Also, scientist's are able to take ice core samples over the centuries from the ice caps and track the polution over the years, so that is factored in too. I'm not trying to convince anyone about the validity of global warming, or climate change, personally, but don't it just make sense to quit being so pigheaded about where you stand on the issue, either for or against, and just take care of the earth? After all, it is our home, which supports us and all. I think we can all agree that polution of any sort, is just not a good thing at all.

 

[Tractor Beam]

tractor beam...consider this fact in your thought process >
Al Gore could become world's first carbon billionaire - Telegraph

I never said there weren't hypocrits. I for one believe in protecting the environment, and take action in many ways......But I'm still a consumer............ who causes polution myself. But! It does bother me, and I support moves to prevent this problem. At least other countries are leading the way, and as usual, America is just trying to catch up.

 

[brin]

This is certainly true. The earth has endured these cycles before, no doubt. But according to science, this cycle we are experiencing now is by far the worst. Also, scientist's are able to take ice core samples over the centuries from the ice caps and track the polution over the years, so that is factored in too. I'm not trying to convince anyone about the validity of global warming, or climate change, personally, but don't it just make sense to quit being so pigheaded about where you stand on the issue, either for or against, and just take care of the earth? After all, it is our home, which supports us and all. I think we can all agree that polution of any sort, is just not a good thing at all.

I posted to share my grand daughter being told by a teacher that her grand children would be the last humans on earth..." Would Be "

Unless and until there is unimpeachable scientific proof of this teachers have no business telling students such a thing and in no event a 12 yr. old even if it were true.

You chose to call me pig headed...I won't respond to you further ..click, click ignore !

 

[om21braz]

One good look at a newspaper will confirm how people treat other people. If they can't treat each other well or themselves, how can you expect them to care about their environment?

 

[Tractor Beam]

I posted to share my grand daughter being told by a teacher that her grand children would be the last humans on earth..." Would Be "

Unless and until there is unimpeachable scientific proof of this teachers have no business telling students such a thing and in no event a 12 yr. old even if it were true.

You chose to call me pig headed...I won't respond to you further ..click, click ignore !

I had originally commented that perhaps your grandaughter misunderstood the meaning of the statement in the movie, and went on to say that even adults misunderstand things at times. See, my point made! I said pigheaded on both sides of the debate. You're aweful touchy! People and their egos are why nothing gets done in this country! The population chooses to (click) IGNORE!!!! Thank you for the prop! I wasn't pulling you out in front of everyone. I wasn't even thinking about you at all when I made the comment. Can you tell me the name of the movie that your grand daughter saw? I'd like to check it out myself, to hear the context of the statement..

 

[rekees4300]

rekees, consider the probability the melting you refer to , hotter temps or colder temps, increased hurricanes or floods as just part of the earths cycle having to do with changing water temps in the oceans among other factors.

I agree that it's possible climate change could be caused by Earth's natural cycles. However, in my opinion, (based on the correlation of global warming with the population explosion and the Industrial Revolution) that probability is much lower than the probability that human activity is the sole cause or at least a major contributing factor. I can understand why some folks want to blame it on natural cycles, that lets them off the hook. They can just sit back, shrug their shoulders, and continue their consumption of Mother Earth with a clear conscience. How convenient! How easy!

 

[Tractor Beam]

tractor beam...consider this fact in your thought process >
Al Gore could become world's first carbon billionaire - Telegraph

Al Gore is promoting energy conservation through green technology. I noticed who the critics in the article are. Not the sort of folks who promote objectivity!

 

[Tractor Beam]

I agree that it's possible climate change could be caused by Earth's natural cycles. However, in my opinion, (based on the correlation of global warming with the population explosion and the Industrial Revolution) that probability is much lower than the probability that human activity is the sole cause or at least a major contributing factor. I can understand why some folks want to blame it on natural cycles, that lets them off the hook. They can just sit back, shrug their shoulders, and continue their consumption of Mother Earth with a clear conscience. How convenient! How easy!

Well, at some point, oil will be gone and we'll be forced to make changes, even if we don't want to! No matter where you stand on the issue, the earth will get the last laugh! Especially if we keep increasing the poulation.

 

[rekees4300]

Tractor Beam you have seen the light. The "last laugh" will happen this century but it's not goin' be funny

 

[Tractor Beam]

Tractor Beam you have seen the light. The "last laugh" will happen this century but it's not goin' be funny

I so agree with you on that. The way the scientist's talk of the lack of clean unpolluted water, I wonder if thirst will get us first.

 

[charlz]

I agree that it's possible climate change could be caused by Earth's natural cycles. However, in my opinion, (based on the correlation of global warming with the population explosion and the Industrial Revolution) that probability is much lower than the probability that human activity is the sole cause or at least a major contributing factor. I can understand why some folks want to blame it on natural cycles, that lets them off the hook. They can just sit back, shrug their shoulders, and continue their consumption of Mother Earth with a clear conscience. How convenient! How easy!

So to re-state your theory: the climate has remained perfectly the same for the last tens of thousands or million years but suddenly is changing post-Industrial Revolution? Thus mankind is the sole cause of climate change?

 

[/pine]

A Credible Global warming Scientist!

just curious what makes this guy any more or less credible than anyone else in the field (and has a dot.com web site) ?

please do not cite the technical data...

 

[rekees4300]

I so agree with you on that. The way the scientist's talk of the lack of clean unpolluted water, I wonder if thirst will get us first.

Lack of drinking water is already a big problem in many parts of the world and it's only going to get worse. It's a fundamental necessity of life so people are going to do whatever it takes to get it. There are going to be mass migrations, riots, strife, and wars fought over it.

 

[rekees4300]

So to re-state your theory: the climate has remained perfectly the same for the last tens of thousands or million years but suddenly is changing post-Industrial Revolution? Thus mankind is the sole cause of climate change?

This is what I said "However, in my opinion, (based on the correlation of global warming with the population explosion and the Industrial Revolution) that probability [cause is natural] is much lower than the probability that human activity is the sole cause or at least a major contributing factor." So your re-statement is partially correct.

 

[bstrom]

just curious what makes this guy any more or less credible than anyone else in the field (and has a dot.com web site) ?

please do not cite the technical data...

Because the OP finds his opinion to be aligned with his own. He is telling him what he wants to hear. Personally I think he is probably old crank but that's just a gut reaction like the OP's. People like to site scientific opinion if it agrees with their own but if it doesn't, well then it's just a scam to get money.

Science and research has told us that the earth's climate has changed before and most people seem to believe that. But if science tells us that burned up hydrocarbons in the atmosphere are changing the earth's climate well then it's a just a big scam to get money. why is that? Why is science right on some things and just trying to get money on other things?