Blame game

   / Blame game #21  
Let's not overlook the fact that former Vice President Dick Cheney recommended the exemption through his power as chair of President Bush's Energy Task Force.

Well (no pun intended)...can you imagine how the media would be reporting the issue if it had happened under the GWB administration? unfortunately for obama it is his administration that granted the exemptiom and since the disaster happened under his watch he's responsible...
 
   / Blame game #22  
That would be an odd result.

One of the ladies in our church knew one of the guys that was killed. She has been very saddened and concerned because her husband still works on an offshore rig.

Eleven men lost their lives on that rig and should not be forgotten in the rush to get the leak stopped. The families of those 11 men are suffering the highest loss of anyone. I think we haven't heard enough about them.
 
   / Blame game #23  
Eleven men lost their lives on that rig and should not be forgotten in the rush to get the leak stopped. The families of those 11 men are suffering the highest loss of anyone. I think we haven't heard enough about them.

Thank You!
 
   / Blame game #25  
In this post you started
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/related-topics/171689-prc.html
you want jobs to stay in the U.S.

Well, here's oil production jobs in the U.S. Which way you want it?
Did you even hear what they think caused the explosion?
Did you here that BP was contracting out the work on the rig? The work was being done by the operating procedures of the drilling company, not BP.
BP has already stated that it was BPs oil and responsibility and they will pick up the cleanup tab, but they did not cause the explosion.

Some way BP caused the accident. The reason they contracted it out is not better experience of the drilling company but the lowest cost. The lowest cost often means old equipment and unskilled people.
I work for Oil and Gas as a vendor and see this all the time. I call it the lowest bidder syndrome. Fortunately for me the more they screw it up the more money I make.
 
   / Blame game #26  
Well (no pun intended)...can you imagine how the media would be reporting the issue if it had happened under the GWB administration? unfortunately for obama it is his administration that granted the exemptiom and since the disaster happened under his watch he's responsible...

Thank you CDsdad for the inside info on BOPS. As usual on TBN, somebody has been there and done that - and is willing to share the knowledge.

What difference would it really have made if BP had not been granted the environmental review waiver? Eventually, there would have been an accident of this type on an off-shore rig, one that cannot be contained, or where the safety devices fail. That is a given since nothing is perfect as was already pointed out.

The review would have prevented none of that. If the reviews were to be taken seriously, no off-shore drilling would be permitted since everybody knows there will be real environmental disaster eventually. We are rolling the environmental dice on every one of these platforms, it's a risk that we pretend is acceptable given our dependence on oil.

We need to cure our addiction to oil, it's that simple.
Dave.
 
   / Blame game #27  
2Many. Exactly. I wish when I was growing up, being a crook was so profitable......but I was raised better than that. I was taught that the harder you work, he rewards will follow. Well, I thinks the rewards were STOLEN!:mad: I seem to work harder and harder- and there's always some politician, lawmaker, agency, whatever, with there hand out grabbing more of my money. How do you teach a son or daughter the virtues of hard work=better life, when it doesn't seem to be playing out that way. I told my wife many years ago, that our generation is the first that will not have it as well as our parents did..(My mother was a stay at home mom before the phrase was coined-I call her MOM! My wife and I work, basically-2 jobs each.I'll be lucky if I still am not working after I'm 6' under. Politicians keep piling more debt on our children all the time. I hate to say it, but I think this once great country is going down the path to extinction. Every other empire in history has failed. Is our government so arrogant to think that it can't happen to us?
 
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Guy,s I guess I should have known better but I didn,t want to start who,s adm. stuff.Bottum line lives were lost,we use oil even though I think this may get people thinking about the true costs of using it,my grand kids will get stuck with the bill.As usual the oil companies made there deals with congress and are only going to be liable for a small part of the cost from what I,v seen.On top of my grand kids picking up the tab we don,t yet know about the eco damage thats being done thats my concern.I hope that it will be ok but we really don,t know.We,v been lied to for so long that I,m honestly at a loss for who I believe about anything any more.All I see is THE FAT cATS PLAY,WE PAY.:confused:worriedgranpa
 
   / Blame game #29  
Well (no pun intended)...can you imagine how the media would be reporting the issue if it had happened under the GWB administration? unfortunately for obama it is his administration that granted the exemptiom and since the disaster happened under his watch he's responsible...

There's plenty of blame to go around that's for sure. It is Obama's responsibility to get the disaster cleaned up but I just can not accept that he is responsible for causing it. The real root cause is 6,800,000,000 humans that need to consume Earth's resources to survive. As those resources become scarcer they become increasingly more difficult to harvest. Thus the need to drill oil wells in mile deep water.
 
   / Blame game #30  
There's plenty of blame to go around that's for sure. It is Obama's responsibility to get the disaster cleaned up but I just can not accept that he is responsible for causing it. The real root cause is 6,800,000,000 humans that need to consume Earth's resources to survive. As those resources become scarcer they become increasingly more difficult to harvest. Thus the need to drill oil wells in mile deep water.

If they'd open up drilling closer to shore they wouldn't have to go a mile deep. ;)
 

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