Boomer 4060/JD 4720?

/ Boomer 4060/JD 4720? #1  

flyingcow

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Looking at both units. Like the hydro option on the JD, but that's really the only thing that stands out. i live in northernmaine and have a substantial driveway. Snow blowing it with a MF1135+ 9ft Lucknow blower. Units run nice( for sale, also), just looking to go a little more modern. I figure put a 6 or 7ft blower + a snowblade on front, will work very well. Will be getting pallet forks and moving/stacking firewood on pallets for my own use. Any thoughts on these 2 units?
 
/ Boomer 4060/JD 4720? #2  
Welcome to TBN. This is a comparison I've not saw before. Hopefully owners will chime in with some really good discussion. This is a great site for opinions, kinda like,,,, well you know what I mean,,,, everyone has one. ;)
 
/ Boomer 4060/JD 4720? #3  
I would go with the Deere and a nice modern cab. I think my 4520cab would be perfect for you.
 
/ Boomer 4060/JD 4720? #4  
Not getting much response here huh...... Might try going to the JD section and post questions on the 4720 and then go to the NH section and post questions on the 4060?? Sometimes it's hard to get these guys started. Then other times it's hard to get them to stop. :p
 
/ Boomer 4060/JD 4720? #5  
Does the Boomer come with a cab? Gotta have a cab in No. Maine while blowing snow..!! Either that or hire the neighbor's 22 yr. old to run your tractor for 'ya when it's 26F and snowing 2" an hour.

The 4720 is alot of Hp for the frame-size. Some user's have opined that it's maybe a "full-cup runneth over" situation in that you don't/can't use all that power (traction loss, etc.) 99% of the time. So, it's a waste of money (or just maybe not the most prudent utilization of your financial resources). {There, there... I don't mean to offend 4720 owner's. And I would never utter a bad word about Lambrogini owner's either.}

The 4520 might really be a better investment - IMO.

Don't really have an opinion on the Boomer. However, I'd have to guess that given it's "flagship" image, the folk's at NH have worked hard to insure that it's a very good tractor.

AKfish
 
/ Boomer 4060/JD 4720? #6  
I was reading the specs for the 4720 and it sounds fantastic. I really like the idea of being able to run at full PTO speed with reduced RPM's.
As far as the 4720's being to much for the frame/tractor size I don't buy it. These units are not really ment to do a lot of ground engagement work. Running bigger brush hogs/snow blowers and more FEL capacity is what its about. I have a tractor about the same size frame (MX5000) and i don't think 16 extra HP would hurt a thing.
 
/ Boomer 4060/JD 4720? #7  
Does the Boomer come with a cab? Gotta have a cab in No. Maine while blowing snow..!! Either that or hire the neighbor's 22 yr. old to run your tractor for 'ya when it's 26F and snowing 2" an hour.

The 4720 is alot of Hp for the frame-size. Some user's have opined that it's maybe a "full-cup runneth over" situation in that you don't/can't use all that power (traction loss, etc.) 99% of the time. So, it's a waste of money (or just maybe not the most prudent utilization of your financial resources). {There, there... I don't mean to offend 4720 owner's. And I would never utter a bad word about Lambrogini owner's either.}

The 4520 might really be a better investment - IMO.

Don't really have an opinion on the Boomer. However, I'd have to guess that given it's "flagship" image, the folk's at NH have worked hard to insure that it's a very good tractor.

AKfish

You Alaskans are bunch of rowdy rebels ain't ya!!!! ;) I understand what you are saying about the 4720. I wonder the same thing in the Kubota Grand L series where the 4240 and 5740 share the same chassis. Either one is underpowered or one is overpowered, can't both be right. :)

But then I understand Pitt's view also, guess it depends on function. Years ago my Brother had a hog operation. He bought a new Allis 5050 to grind feed with. Great little tractor that spent 90% of it's life turning the PTO shaft on a large feed grinder. Everyday that little tractor wanted more HP. :p
 
/ Boomer 4060/JD 4720? #8  
I prefer the John Deere. With regard to the power, the 4720 is a powerful machine. It is not that it has too much power, just that for a bit less money one can get into a 4520 with exactly the same engine and features a have a bit left over to save or buy an attachment. I had a 4520 and would say it has a ton of power. It pulled great, and would power big implements without any struggle. I honestly cannot see where the tiny upgrade in PTO power between the 4520 and 4720 merit the additional cost, unless someone just wants a 4720. In all honesty, the 4320 has plenty of power for virtually every PTO application. I would not recommend a 4120 if our OP is planning on doing a lot of snowblowing, as it likely would struggle a LITTLE under this job type. My experience is the Powertech engines in these 4000 series JD machines make tremendous torque and that makes them really great for hard PTO work. The torque these powerplants throughout the line make has to be experienced to be believed. I have used some NH equipment and though nice, it does not have the same engine performance, for whatever reason. NH has come a long way though and they do make really solid machines.

John M
 
/ Boomer 4060/JD 4720? #9  
The Boomer series of tractors are great, they have the most standard features and the roomiest cabs in the market.....as far as power, they are great. if you have a front end loader they even have a window in the top of the cab so you dont have to look under your cab just to see you loader. new holland has thought of the little things that others do not..You do realize with a hydrostat trans that you loose more power out the pto than you do with a shuttle shift like the new holland has. The Boomer 4060 has either a mechanical syncronized 12x12 shuttle or a 12x12 power shuttle. both are great, the power shuttle you dont have to clutch at all to change directions. ....Plus blue is usually cheaper in price and after the fact on parts and service

Compact-Tractors-and-Commercial-Mowers New Holland Boomer-Utility - Models, technical data and characteristics
 
/ Boomer 4060/JD 4720? #10  
I prefer the John Deere. With regard to the power, the 4720 is a powerful machine. It is not that it has too much power, just that for a bit less money one can get into a 4520 with exactly the same engine and features a have a bit left over to save or buy an attachment. I had a 4520 and would say it has a ton of power. It pulled great, and would power big implements without any struggle. I honestly cannot see where the tiny upgrade in PTO power between the 4520 and 4720 merit the additional cost, unless someone just wants a 4720. In all honesty, the 4320 has plenty of power for virtually every PTO application. I would not recommend a 4120 if our OP is planning on doing a lot of snowblowing, as it likely would struggle a LITTLE under this job type. My experience is the Powertech engines in these 4000 series JD machines make tremendous torque and that makes them really great for hard PTO work. The torque these powerplants throughout the line make has to be experienced to be believed. I have used some NH equipment and though nice, it does not have the same engine performance, for whatever reason. NH has come a long way though and they do make really solid machines.

John M
Just out of curiosity what is the price difference between the 4520 and the 4720?
Are the frames the same size?
 
/ Boomer 4060/JD 4720? #11  
The Boomer looks like a very stout machine. I don't know how a guy is supposed to choose between two machines like these. Flip a coin?
 
/ Boomer 4060/JD 4720? #12  
Choose based on dealer service! I know which one will retain better resale (if that is a concern of yours)...
 
/ Boomer 4060/JD 4720? #13  
I was reading the specs for the 4720 and it sounds fantastic. I really like the idea of being able to run at full PTO speed with reduced RPM's.
As far as the 4720's being to much for the frame/tractor size I don't buy it. These units are not really ment to do a lot of ground engagement work. Running bigger brush hogs/snow blowers and more FEL capacity is what its about. I have a tractor about the same size frame (MX5000) and i don't think 16 extra HP would hurt a thing.

The ePTO option is also available on the 4520.

The FEL capacity (lift, breakout force, etc.) is identical for all the 4000 series machines. The hydraulic pump capacity is the same for all the tractors in the series. And the available 400X or 400CX loader has the same specifications from the bottom to the top of the line for the 4000 series.

Now... the moment the bucket hits the pile - and the tires break traction.. Well, that's when the debate over the better Hp/weight ratio begins. ;)

AKfish
 
/ Boomer 4060/JD 4720? #14  
Just out of curiosity what is the price difference between the 4520 and the 4720?
Are the frames the same size?

The only difference is the tuning and injector nozzle size, injector pump etc.
No difference in the rest of the tractor for the 4X20 series. The 4520 and 4720 both offer some additional features such as the economy pto though.
 
/ Boomer 4060/JD 4720? #15  
New Holland offers a economt pto setting on the Boomer as well. The Boomer is a very stout tractor.
 
/ Boomer 4060/JD 4720? #16  
Choose based on dealer service! I know which one will retain better resale (if that is a concern of yours)...


Everybody think they know what resales better, but most of the time end up being wrong, these mid range and compacts are really changing these days and some of the green ones dont resale like they use to
 
/ Boomer 4060/JD 4720? #17  
Everybody think they know what resales better, but most of the time end up being wrong, these mid range and compacts are really changing these days and some of the green ones dont resale like they use to


Well I feel the market is changing in a number of ways and we will all have to see how this affects resale over time. Who is buying small tractors has changed significantly in the last 30 years and the selectoin of small tractors has increased dramatically. Most of the leading manufacturers offer a dozen different models within the same size range that in the past were covered by two or three models. The customers are more varied too, there are more people buying these compact tractors that in the past decades went without them.

Resale depends on lots of variables too, as I said in your other thread alot depends on length of ownership time. Buying and selling frequently can be costly. The green, orange and blue tractors (sorry if I leave someone out) can all do well on resale if proper care is taken because they are all good tractors in the general sense. If a particular model is found to have problems and is considered less desirable then it's resale will be much less.

There will be people who push their favorites some prefer Deere as I do and some prefer New Holland as you appear to. When I have to resort to finding fault with other brands to reassure myself that my selection is better is when I will start looking at other brands to purchase more closely. Last year when shopping for a new tractor I looked at alot of brands and models and was really suprised how many were available locally. After all the looking you see what I bought and so far no regrets.
 
/ Boomer 4060/JD 4720?
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#18  
Just screwed up, just spoke for a 2009 NH TN75D. 300 hours, cab, loader, BH90X backhoe w/ thumb. Rim guard in rears, chains on rears. Dealer had it on consignment, someone was in a pinch and needed to dump it quick. Got drivetrain warranty until feb 2012, full warranty until feb 2011. A lot less $$$'s than the boomer or JD 4720. Right place right time.
 
/ Boomer 4060/JD 4720? #19  
get a jd3720 cab...44hp and u can put more funds toward attachments
 
/ Boomer 4060/JD 4720? #20  
Well, how much was it?
Which gearbox is it (12 or 16 speed)?
 

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