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I'm curious about the cost to construct a pole building. Especially when comparing different size buildings. Is there going to be huge difference between 30x40 and 32x48? Also there shouldn't be any difference in construction cost if you have a 9' or 12' high barn just material costs. No slab. Just the cost to but it up.
If anybody has examples of what they paid to have the barn built and the size would be appreciated.

Wedge
 
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You construction cost might be a little higher for 12 foot walls if the contractor has to build higher scaffolding to work or if he has to bring in a manlift for the 12 foot whereas he could just work off sawhorses with a 9 foot wall. Size does matter to an extent also. Make your barn in increments that allow using standard length lumber so the builder doesnt have to cut and waste a foot of lumber for each truss or other member. I had my 30 x 52 barn built for $25,500 complete with attic storage, insulated walls, ceiling and insulated 8 foot x 16 and 8x10 garage doors. It has a 6" concrete slab that is 30 x30 with a 10x 8 bathroom on one side. Each side has a 12 foot x 30 foot open shed for parking equipment. Fully wired with 100 amp electrical and lights and one garage door opener. This was in Bismarck Ark. last year. It is all wood construction with steel roof
 
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I just had a 24'x36' built by a Amish/Mennonite company, the cost was $12,450 including a 24'x24' insulated slab, insulated 12'x8' door, gutters and downspouts. The rear 12' is open for implement storage. You can view pictures in my album linked below in by sig.

I looked at all kinds of construction, and buying one of the "kits" and doing it myself...I concluded I could NOT do it for what they did it for, and certainly not as fast!
 
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Some photos of it while under construction. I dont have any of completed building after painting and garage door installation. The walls are 9 foot studs with one course of 8x16 CMU block to raise the walls up so I can powerwash the floors without wetting the walls. The complete interior has R 19 insulation and sealed with 3/8" plywood.. The attic has a 30 foot by 8 foor floored storage area also with lighting.
 

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Nice shed Kennyd. I also looked at doing a structural steel building with prefab kit and at the time (Feb 2008)the kit was $40K with out the slab or wiring and I had to put it up. It costed me about half to have it built out of wood and I think I got a much better building. I know the insulation is much better than the light 3" blanket that the kit furnished.
 
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I just had a 24'x36' built by a Amish/Mennonite company, the cost was $12,450 including a 24'x24' insulated slab, insulated 12'x8' door, gutters and downspouts. The rear 12' is open for implement storage. You can view pictures in my album linked below in by sig.

I looked at all kinds of construction, and buying one of the "kits" and doing it myself...I concluded I could NOT do it for what they did it for, and certainly not as fast!
Ya I'm looking at two Amish places about 60 miles away. 30x40 is 7K for the material.. I figure after making upgrades it would be about 10K. Then hoping I can have it built for 5K. I guess I'll wait till I spring then start calling.

Wedge
 
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Don't wait till spring...materials can go up by then. Draw what you want on graph paper and get some quotes...they work in all kinds of weather!
 
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I'm curious about the cost to construct a pole building. Especially when comparing different size buildings. Is there going to be huge difference between 30x40 and 32x48? Also there shouldn't be any difference in construction cost if you have a 9' or 12' high barn just material costs. No slab. Just the cost to but it up.
If anybody has examples of what they paid to have the barn built and the size would be appreciated.

Wedge

word of advice...go tall it is cheap space:cool::cool:

this is the barn I got for a very good price.


http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...n-buildings-price-negotiable.html#post1761255

I am very pleased with the results. A 40 x 60 x 14 foot tall barn with a insulated roll up door 4 windows and an architectural shingled roof with trusses on 24 inch centers for what I paid for it seems to be a great value.
These guys can put up a barn!:D:D:D:D
 
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I've been price for a while now and have permission from she who must be obeyed, to go a head with the job and I知 planning on building in March. The size is 24 by 40 by 10 with overhangs all the way around, a few windows and garage type door. The prices are below. I will probably do the clearing and the build up of the ground a 2-k is way too much and I can spread gravel so this will reduce the cost.
 

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I'm curious about the cost to construct a pole building. Especially when comparing different size buildings. Is there going to be huge difference between 30x40 and 32x48? Also there shouldn't be any difference in construction cost if you have a 9' or 12' high barn just material costs. No slab. Just the cost to but it up.
If anybody has examples of what they paid to have the barn built and the size would be appreciated.

Wedge

A bigger building will of course cost more; but it will often cost less per square foot.

A 32 foot building will give you a better value than a 30 foot - many building materials come in 4 or 8 foot pieces, and so to make a 30 foot you will need to cut & toss some pieces. More labor, more waste.

Your 9 foot wall is a real bad one - nothing fits into a 9 foot section, so you have a lot of waste. The 12 foot will be a lot more efficient on building materials & labor. It is also possible to put a 4 or 6 or 8 foot wide loft in a 12 foot tall building, giving you a stroage area. The next owner might want to park his tall camper in the building, so it will be a valuable selling point with a 10 foot high door, vs a worthless to him building with only an 8 foot door in it. Think in all directions, think of the future.

Now, there can be overhangs, and other considerations, but if you think in terms of 4 or 8 feet, in general you will get the best bang for your buck. Talk that over with your buildier. Perhaps a 9 foot pole spacing is the best pole setup, then your building length will be a multiple of 9 instead of 8.

A wider building that needs longer trusses is going to cost more - the truss has to be beefier as it gets longer.

But that is balanced by: A square & a rectangle of equal square footage, the square will take much less siding. A 40 by 40 building will take more expensive trusses than a 20 by 40 building, but the long skinny one will take more siding - somewhere there is a magic combination that offers the cheapest square footage. There are 'sweet spots' that offer the best bang for the buck. Neither the 40 by 40 nor the 20x80 building is most ecconomical - somewhere in the middle the costs will balance out & offer the best value.

--->Paul
 
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I just had a 24'x36' built by a Amish/Mennonite company, the cost was $12,450 including a 24'x24' insulated slab, insulated 12'x8' door, gutters and downspouts. The rear 12' is open for implement storage. You can view pictures in my album linked below in by sig.

I looked at all kinds of construction, and buying one of the "kits" and doing it myself...I concluded I could NOT do it for what they did it for, and certainly not as fast!

Kenny:

I haven't looked at your albums in a while; but that is a nice building you got at a great price. I keep hearing good things about Amish/Mennonite builders and I wish we had them here.
 
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I'm curious about the cost to construct a pole building. Especially when comparing different size buildings. Is there going to be huge difference between 30x40 and 32x48? Also there shouldn't be any difference in construction cost if you have a 9' or 12' high barn just material costs. No slab. Just the cost to but it up.
If anybody has examples of what they paid to have the barn built and the size would be appreciated.

Wedge

The biggest expense in any building is in the labor. Are you going to build it or hire it out?

The rectangle is the cheapest shape to build. Four walls and a simple gable roof. Change this around and the price starts to climb.

For square footage, longer is cheaper to build then wider.

There are all sorts of ways to build a building, but the cheapest is usually wood posts set in the ground and wood trusses, using metal to cover the sides and roof. This would be a bare bones building and can be in the $10 a sq ft range to have built for you, depending on snow loads, roof pitch and local codes. $15 a ft would be at the higher end of it, and anything under ten bucks would be pretty good.

You must compare apples to apples, so know what sized posts you are using and the gauge of the metal. Not all metal panels are the same, and even if the thickness is the same, the coating might not be. Some companies sell metal from a main supplier and put their name on it. Others make their own metal. I like Muellers. They make all their own stuff, and they do a good job of it.

The most common reason for leaks in a metal roof are the screws. If you get cheap gaskets on the screws, you will have leaks.

The biggest complaint on metal buildings is from condesation. It will litterally rain inside of the building on a clear day outside. Insulation will stop this, but it costs more money.

Door size and type will have a big affect on the cost. Sliding doors are the cheapest, but usually the most prone to problems. They also tend to be very difcult to seal up. Wind and bugs can get in through them the easiest. I like roll up doors, but a household garage style door is also good.

Metal panels are three ft wide, so to be the most cost effective, figure your dimensions in multiples of three.

Putting the drive through door at the gable ends allows you to go higher then on the sides, but it might limit you on how many doors you want.

Consider utilities. Electricity can be a simple part of it, or expensive, depending on your local laws and distance from where the power source.

Water is very nice to have in a shop. Another expense, but usually a cheap one. I really like having a sink in my shop. I have hot and cold water in this shop, but only had cold water in my last shop. That was fine for most of the year, but in winter, it sure is nice to have hot water, though I wouldn't spend the extra money to make it happen if it wasn't convienent.

And the last big expense is the floor. Rock is just terrible to have to work on. Concrete is the best for allot of reasons. Rolling, walking and just finding a part when it falls down. You will never regret spending the money for concrete, but you will always regret not having it. Do the concrete right away. The longer you wait, the more stuff you will put in there, and the tougher it will be. Concrete also gets more expensive every year.

Figure out exactly what you need, how big you want to go and look online for some buildings of that size. Then with some basic numbers and idea of what you want, interview some builders to get your prices. Always talk to at least five builders. The big mistake most people make is to hire the first one they talk to. I get hired this way allot and always wonder about the client making such a quick decision on such an important aspect of their lives.

Here's a good site to get an idea of prices. I don't know this company and have never bought anything from them, but they offer prices, which I use when estimating a the cost of a metal building. It will put you in the ballpark and then you can go from there.

Steel Buildings: Pre Engineered Metal Building Kits & Garage Doors - SteelBuilding.com

And Muellers will sometimes offer kits that are pretty good, but most of the time, you have to talk to their saleman to get a price for what you want.

Mueller, Inc. - Home Page

Eddie
 
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Thanks Eddie.. I was looking for your reply.
I will post some of my ideas here when I get home.

here is a ball park for the material from the place I'm looking at.

30x48x9
4x6 pole, 8 o.c.
1 bag of secrete per pole
2x6 skirtboards, 2 rows
2x4 side nailers 24 o.c.
2x4 roof purlins, 24 o.c
Trusse 8 oc 3 5/12

I think 29 ga metal.
Insulation, 1/4" Fan Fold on roof.

2 ag winds, 3x2 with screens
1 36 entry door.
2 9x7 overhead doors

Approximate cost $7K.


Wedge
 
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Building variations and prices are extremely broad in scope. So you need specifics when guys start quoting their costs. I can describe a building w/costs and you'd think it was the greatest price ever. Then I can describe a different building w/costs and you'd think I got ripped off. Then in reality the opposite might be true. It's all in the details about what you have when done. Build what you need/want/can afford and it'll be the best deal for you.

My shop is 42x50x12, all steel construction w/26 ga siding/roofing screwed together with stainless steel screws, wrap insulated, 8" steel reinforced concrete, six 4x2 double paned sliding vinyl windows, three 12x10 insulated w/full windows CHI rollup doors one with commercial opener, one 36" insulated steel walk-in door w/double paned window, steel conduit wired including six welder plugins and 36 double wall receptacles, eight R-5 4 bulb 4ft lights, 95,000 btu dual stage Goodman furnace, 10x12 bathroom with hot water and storage overhead. I hired the concrete poured and did the rest with help from the boys. Wifey says we have $42K in it. She counts EVERYTHING, even mileage to the city for materials. My biggest complaint is people drive up and I don't hear them until they are walking in the door. Very tight building that's as comfortable as my house and we can see the North Pole out the North window (high winds). You get what you pay for. I wanted the best shop I could build and I think I've got it. Good luck with your project!!! :)
 
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The most economical length will be a multiple of your frameline spacing.

ie If your truss spacding is 8' o.c. then the building should be 32',40' 48' etc.

Size of lumber or steel panels doesn't really make a difference.
 
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30x48x9

2 9x7 overhead doors

Wedge

Sounds good. I'd think carefully about a 9 foot wall and expecting a 9 foot door. That rarely can happen, unless you have sissors trusses and put the doors on the endwall?

--->Paul
 
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Sounds good. I'd think carefully about a 9 foot wall and expecting a 9 foot door. That rarely can happen, unless you have sissors trusses and put the doors on the endwall?

--->Paul

9' x 7' is only 7' high. ;)
 
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9' x 7' is only 7' high. ;)

Wow. For that nice of a building - doors you can't even fit a compact tractor in...... Wouldn't seem to cost much more to make a 10 foot wall & put a real door in & have something useful. To each their own, fun to spend other people's money right? :)

--->Paul
 
 
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