DSL speed

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Chuck52

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I'm paying for 1.5MBs on my CenturyTel dsl connection. I knew it was slow, but I really don't do all that much from home. DW complained bitterly about the slow speed when she was trying to buy stuff....somehow that didn't make me want to get the speed up....don't know why. Anyhoo, I finally ran a few of those internet speed check thingies and was getting about 200KB, so I called up CenturyTel to complain. I got a nice young lady who sure sounded American, and she ran down the check list with me. I have satellite TV, and she asked if I had a filter on the phone line to the TV. Of course I did! At least that's my story to DW so she doesn't give me the grief I know she would. Anyway, good news guys! Now I can submit all kinds of stuff to p### you off much faster than before!

Chuck
 
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Glad yours worked out.. We have slow, high speed DSL - we are at the very end of the line so our 768 lbs (spec'd) only gives us 500 or so.. Still better than dial up or satellite internet..

Brian
 
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1356 download and 282 upload. I think I've tested as much as 1500 before. I've got 7 or 8 windows open right now. I'm on a rural telephone company with buried cable. I'm about 6 miles from their switching station but only a couple of hundred feet from some kind of booster stations. They are in the process of going to fiber optics. At that time they will have a 3 tier dsl service. My speed will be the second level and I'll probably stick with that.
 
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I'm paying for 1.5MBs on my CenturyTel dsl connection. I knew it was slow, but I really don't do all that much from home. DW complained bitterly about the slow speed when she was trying to buy stuff....somehow that didn't make me want to get the speed up....don't know why. Anyhoo, I finally ran a few of those internet speed check thingies and was getting about 200KB, so I called up CenturyTel to complain. I got a nice young lady who sure sounded American, and she ran down the check list with me. I have satellite TV, and she asked if I had a filter on the phone line to the TV. Of course I did! At least that's my story to DW so she doesn't give me the grief I know she would. Anyway, good news guys! Now I can submit all kinds of stuff to p### you off much faster than before!

Chuck

How do you do a speed check?
I'm on the fastest available dsl for my area which is supposed to be 760 or something like that
 
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Let me chime in with some comments here..

DSL or any Internet speed test is vulnerable to dozens of unknown variables.
here are just a few....

First, the speed is only rated from your device to the first device on the providers network. After that you compete with the other users out to the Internet.

Second, the connection from your provider is ALWAYS oversubscribed. IE if they sell (100) 3 MEG DSLs they will not have 300 Meg of connection to their provider. It is a very complex formula for computing the "pipe size".

Third, every provider that connects to every other provider is just like #2.

Fourth, internet connections are often rated in bits per second and downloads are rated in BYTES per second. (a factor of 8 differential)
so if you d/l a file and see ~200KB per second that is ~1600KBits per second.

Fifth, the load on the test server can also impact the speed test. I ran 4 tests each from 2 different computers on the same provider. All the came back radically different. (and we were using special test softwre to check all the local site variables)

Sixth, the rest of your house's computers or even the applications on your computer can impact the speed. A friend had tons of spyware on her computer, ran spybot to clean it and the speed rating jumped up! Special software can actually show this.. see PRTG Network Monitor - intuitive network monitoring software


Lastly, Internet connections between you and the server are also part of what you just measured-- think highway with an accident.road construction- today it takes 1 hour from home to Aunt Jenny's, tomorrow it takes 2 because of the accident or road construction....

So if you do a test from your home, the most accurate test of what you have is from the home device to your provider.....Most providers have a server or website just for this.....

Now the inevitable point that is argued is "I pay for a X speed, and (fill in the blank) says I have Y speed and I am not getting what I paid for."


The Internet providers do everything in their power to give you what they can, but there are things that are beyond their control... Think UPS and shipping-- they do their best, but at times weather and other things prevent that delivery from making it work..... they have a service level agreement (SLA) for the price... the consumer grade highspeed does not have an SLA. Business grade highspeed will go so far to say round trip time from X to Y will be usually 30 mseconds or less in the Continental US... (some faster some slower) and this is actually written in the contract!


anyway hope this helps explain some of it.....


and yes, I do this for a living..... Actually have a few customers that watch that SLA and if it hits 35 milliseconds for periods, they get refunds.....



Later,
Jim
 
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This is what I like about TBN, everyone is here because the are into tractors but there is such a wide range of knowledge and expetise between subscribers you can find answers to almost anything.

Good post RadarTech!
 
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thanks Carpenter383!

I don't always get to post good info. It is nice to be able to give something back after all the wealth of information I've recieved over the last year or so....

later,
J
 
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also of note with rural DSL is latency or "lag". measured in milliseconds or ms.

while i have decent DL speeds my "ping" will avg over 400ms for long periods of time. (hrs)

While this marginally affects "normal" web browsing, any "time" sensitive information sent over the DSL line is worthless. ie VOIP and online gaming (weather it be from a console PS3 or computer)

my ping is mostly a function of the over sold (or under provided) connection at the CO of my ISP.

so having a nice large download speed is mostly worthless if it takes FOREVER to send small packets of info back and forth in a timely manner.
 
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also of note with rural DSL is latency or "lag". measured in milliseconds or ms.

while i have decent DL speeds my "ping" will avg over 400ms for long periods of time. (hrs)

While this marginally affects "normal" web browsing, any "time" sensitive information sent over the DSL line is worthless. ie VOIP and online gaming (weather it be from a console PS3 or computer)

my ping is mostly a function of the over sold (or under provided) connection at the CO of my ISP.

so having a nice large download speed is mostly worthless if it takes FOREVER to send small packets of info back and forth in a timely manner.

Schism,
I have seen this alot on virus/spyware infested systems...

go out and d/l spybot search and destroy. and check your system..
Also hit up TrendMicro's housecall website...

If your using Wireless, trying connecting via wire..

Lastly, if those times are around the busy time of day---- Lunch (11-1 local time) after dinner (6-8 local time) or early work day (7:30 - 9 local time) then they are just oversusbscribe and I would complain...

Now if it happens during weather.... hmmm...

Or if your a night owl--- Midnight to 4 AM is the normal maintenance window for most ISPs... They will shutdown,reload, upgrade and replace equipment while minimizing the available performance since not all capacity is available on failover equipment.....

SO---
Check for virus/Spyware...
note the times it happens.. check multiple days.. Complain if outside of busy windows...
And if it is in the maint window-- go to bed!!!!


I hate working the maint windows....... done way too many of them.....
 
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The computer guy at work checked out my work computer because it seemed to me that I had lost a step or three. One of the things he did was remove the Goggle tool bar (or whatever it is called) from my FireFox. I had loaded that because....because....because the FireFox folks said to, or I thought they did anyway. That speeded up browsing quite a bit. I'm not sure what else he did, seems like that was the biggie, but everything seemed to improve after that. He told me to run MalWare's anti-malware software on my home computer, along with my regular anti-virus, and I was pleasantky surprised to find no buggers lurking there. on the other hand, I have all kinds of processes running constantly, some of which are probably irrelevant at best. Is there some good software which will look at what you have running and suggest things to seep six?

Chuck
 
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Chuck,

Here is a list of items we tell our customers to stay away from.... and some of these may surprise you....

1. Weatherbug-- say spyware...
2. ALL Internet Browser toolbars... (yahoo, google, any and all)
they watch where you go and then they use that to "help" you with searches...
Say spyware...
3. Check your task bar-- if there is anything your not using close it...
4. if you check the taskmanager and anything looks unknown... google the name.
you can find most on the net and what they do...
5. remove any application that is a websearch tool..
6. RUN Spybot search and destroy-- this one app is community supported and has bested many paid apps.... and it has an IMMUNIZE feature... Very good...-- DEEP SIX APP --
7. Defrag the hard drive weekly..
8. Clear all cookies and browsing history periodically..



Later,
J
 
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Chuck,

Here is a list of items we tell our customers to stay away from.... and some of these may surprise you....

1. Weatherbug-- say spyware...
2. ALL Internet Browser toolbars... (yahoo, google, any and all)
they watch where you go and then they use that to "help" you with searches...
Say spyware...
3. Check your task bar-- if there is anything your not using close it...
4. if you check the taskmanager and anything looks unknown... google the name.
you can find most on the net and what they do...
5. remove any application that is a websearch tool..
6. RUN Spybot search and destroy-- this one app is community supported and has bested many paid apps.... and it has an IMMUNIZE feature... Very good...-- DEEP SIX APP --
7. Defrag the hard drive weekly..
8. Clear all cookies and browsing history periodically..



Later,
J


1) How do you defrag the hard drive?
2) A couple days ago my G/F said our computer got a webcrawler or something? Any way when I try to search the net it takes me to a bunch of paid advertizing stuff (especially when I search google) and not to the site I clicked on. Also the browsing history is not being saved for some reason, do you have any idea what this could be? Sorry, I'm sure my question is very vauge and leaves out important details, but I'm no computer whizz:eek: Could this be some kind of virus?
We did a system scan with our computers' anti virus (symantic I think) and it didn't help.
TIA
 
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Links to live by:

Windows XP defrag:
How to Defragment Your Disk Drive Volumes in Windows XP

Windows Vista defrag:
Improve performance by defragmenting your hard disk

Checking for spyware etc:
The home of Spybot-S&D!
Download and install Spybot..
It sometimes requires system reboots to install and complete repairs.

I suspect she mean spyware or adware-- this does what you describe..
Spybot should clean that.. just run it and tell it to clean all...
You can also look for things like coupon.com or any application listed in the add/remove programs under the control panel in the start menu...
If niether you nor your girlfriend installed it and it is not something from the computer manufacturer.. It is likely that some spyware/adware program installed it........

A webcrawler is an application or script that will search the internet for information...

For all those chain letters- enter a few words and search for it here:
snopes.com: Urban Legends Reference Pages

and last by certainly not least---
If you get stumped by some term on the Internet:

Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Let me know if you have Vista or XP.....


Also you can run Window defender....



J
 
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Links to live by:

Windows XP defrag:
How to Defragment Your Disk Drive Volumes in Windows XP

Windows Vista defrag:
Improve performance by defragmenting your hard disk

Checking for spyware etc:
The home of Spybot-S&D!
Download and install Spybot..
It sometimes requires system reboots to install and complete repairs.

I suspect she mean spyware or adware-- this does what you describe..
Spybot should clean that.. just run it and tell it to clean all...
You can also look for things like coupon.com or any application listed in the add/remove programs under the control panel in the start menu...
If niether you nor your girlfriend installed it and it is not something from the computer manufacturer.. It is likely that some spyware/adware program installed it........

A webcrawler is an application or script that will search the internet for information...

For all those chain letters- enter a few words and search for it here:
snopes.com: Urban Legends Reference Pages

and last by certainly not least---
If you get stumped by some term on the Internet:

Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Let me know if you have Vista or XP.....


Also you can run Window defender....



J

I have windows xp.
She claims it was nothing she did, so I assume it added itself:confused:
I will check out the links you provided and see if I can decifer the info:)
Thanks for the help!!!!
 
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I have another question will the windows defrag erase any saved pics or anything on my computer?
TIA
 

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