BX hauler, prototype!

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nh DRAGON

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I got the horse trailer conversion working. Still needs finishing touches and to be painted. Just ran out of time so I never got the 2' beaver tail on it before it went to work so it will haul everything fine except the machine with the rake and fel on. (Just too short at 10' 2"!) ;)

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Looks good, some good ol' fashioned yankee ingenuity!
 
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its a good start- how does it handle with the axles that far back ?
 
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I'm no expert on towing but I would not be comfortable with the bucket up like that. Wouldn't hitting a good pothole or bump put a lot of shock on the lift cylinders? I could see something letting go and the bucket coming down hard. Or, do you block it up somehow - can't tell from the pic's.
 
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Good idea looks strong..nice.
 
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I dunno if its a regional thing (harsh winters, road salt use, etc.), but I see a LOT of clapped out campers stripped down to the frame/axles and converted for similar use. I always wonder if the frames are up to taking a load such as a tractor concentrated in a relatively small area. Some of them look really well made...... and of course some don't.
 
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Personally, I'd get rid of the ramp in the back (or at least cut a big hole in the cheese-grater) so I could slide the tractor back a couple/few feet. This would serve the dual purpose of getting the weight of the tractor on the trailer wheels instead of the tongue AND allow the FEL bucket to rest on the tractor frame very near the tongue. Since your truck doesn't seem to have a wide rear bumper, there shouldn't be any conflicts in turns.

Do that and I'd say that's a pretty darn perfect low-cost BX carrier! Love it!
 
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back the tractor on the trailer and rest the bucket on the gate
 
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back the tractor on the trailer and rest the bucket on the gate

Need to be careful when towing tractor back-wards. The hood latch on these tractors leave me a little concerned. Was also told by the dealer that this is not recommended, as there have been quite a few incidents of the hood catching wind and getting damaged. when towing backward the wind is more likely to catch under the hood and fly up. Where in the other direction the wind is more favorable.
 
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back the tractor on the trailer and rest the bucket on the gate
Before I got my big trailer, I'd do that with mine. I actually transported it like that with the BH installed on my 5'x10' 3,500# capacity trailer. Single axle. It actually worked pretty well.

In the case of this particular trailer, though, I fear that would only amplify the issue he has with overloading of the tongue. Better to see the mass of the tractor slide REARWARD rather than spin the tractor around and promote sliding if even further FORWARD.
 
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Nice trailer. I would say is a little small but it lookes good with your BX on it. Keep up the good work.
 
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I got the horse trailer conversion working. Still needs finishing touches and to be painted. Just ran out of time so I never got the 2' beaver tail on it before it went to work so it will haul everything fine except the machine with the rake and fel on. (Just too short at 10' 2"!) ;)

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Can you load this truck with the BX?
 
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Before I got my big trailer, I'd do that with mine. I actually transported it like that with the BH installed on my 5'x10' 3,500# capacity trailer. Single axle. It actually worked pretty well.

In the case of this particular trailer, though, I fear that would only amplify the issue he has with overloading of the tongue. Better to see the mass of the tractor slide REARWARD rather than spin the tractor around and promote sliding if even further FORWARD.

Do you really think the trailer tongue is overloaded?
 
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I have access to another 20' trailer so this is really only used to haul tractor/mower but will work with fel and tiller also in a pinch. ;)
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I believe it's illegal in most states to have the bucket up while towing.
 
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Do you really think the trailer tongue is overloaded?
I was speaking more to the weight distribution on the trailer than the weight on the tongue itself. The rear wheels of the tractor is nearly between the two axles of the trailer, the front wheels (with engine block) near the very front of the trailer, THEN the weight of the FEL way out front. This would constitute far more than the "10% guideline" for distributing weight between the trailer axles and tongue.

When I load my tractor on my trailer, I generally put the tractor body squarely between the trailer axles...the rear tires a little behind the rear axle, the front tires a little ahead of the front axle. I figure between the HST transmission and the engine block, this is decently centered. The weight of the FEL then constitutes my 10%. If my BH is attached, I slide the whole thing forward 6" or so to compensate, putting more of the BH weight over the rear axle instead of hanging off the back of the trailer.

Whatever the weight of the trailer (bumper-pull, I mean), 1,000# or 10,000#, it will always tow better with the weight properly distributed. It is a trailer dynamics thing, not a weight capacity thing.

I still love the trailer, though. I would have loved my 5'x10' to have been built like that. Sweet rig.
Can you load this truck with the BX?
I bet he could, but the ramps would be as heavy as the trailer. And I'd hate for something to go wrong (who knows...ramp breaking, engine stalling, tires slipping, beer spilling...whatever) with the tractor 4' off the ground, not quite in the truck. Don't imagine a BX "falls" with much grace.

EDIT: Unless you mean: Can he get material into that truck with the BX...I had stakesides on my 5'x10' and had to cut them down to allow the bucket to curl and maneuver without ripping them off. That truck looks a little tall. If he took the wood rims off, maybe, but it would limit his volumetric capacity to 12 teaspoons. Maybe 14.
 
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I was speaking more to the weight distribution on the trailer than the weight on the tongue itself. The rear wheels of the tractor is nearly between the two axles of the trailer, the front wheels (with engine block) near the very front of the trailer, THEN the weight of the FEL way out front. This would constitute far more than the "10% rule" for distributing weight between the trailer axles and tongue..

10% is NOT a rule, it is a guideline.
 
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10% is NOT a rule...
Ummmm...I know. Way to pick it apart, friend.

I'd like to think that my point was clear. In case you missed it, I fixed it in my earlier post so you can review an error-free revision of my thoughts.
 
 
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