Tiller 4 or 5 ft tiller?

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daniull

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Hey Guys, love this forum immensely --it has helped me so much.

ok...I am about to throw down some $$$ on a tiller. Now I have heard (and you know how that goes) that my JD2210 should have a 4' tiller. but I don't like the fact that i will have even the tiniest strip of tire tracks being left behind as i till especially since, among other things, i am going to seed some grass after I till. now I have also heard (o boy) that the newer tillers are not hard on the pto since they rotate forward....so can I go 5' or is there possibly something in between...???

thanks...and look forward to a reply....

d
 
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Now do you understand some 4 foot tillers can be offset and you simply over lap as you go to avoid tracks?
 
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I just bought a used 4' tiller. What I like about the 4'er is I can get in between in my garden to start new crops.
The pic shows three passes side by side. I was going away from the camera. I also made a pass (in the fore ground) coming from right to left of the camera and you can see how little tire track there is. I have a 35hp Branson with R-4 tires.
 

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yes i was noticing that.... nice soil!

i understand the offset... but personally i dont want to mess with that...
 
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also....how do you keep it so weed free? i was planning to use landscape fabric
 
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What is your PTO HP? I'm sure you could run a 60". But if your like me I'm not a cowboy, I like to take my time and make multiple passes.
 
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According to the specs I just looked at.....the 2210 has 17 PTO HP. Not enough if you have a gear tranny.....and you really should have a little more HP to run a 5 footer.....but with your Hydro you can creep along pretty slowly. I think you can get it done.....but you are not going to be going very fast.

As was said earlier.....some of the tillers allow an offset of the tiller to one side to allow covering the wheel tracks on one side. I believe I would go in that direction.

Also, something else to consider......the 2210 is more of a SCUT (I believe) and I would look at implements sized for the SCUT tractors. I think the King Kutter 4 foot SCUT tiller would allow the offset you are looking for...but you should check it out on the web to be sure.

** edit I just looked on the Web and the XB size KK Tillers do NOT allow for an offset. Sorry.....was wrong information. But....others do offer such an offset feature.

Most folks that have the KK tillers swear by 'em. Including me. :D
 
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OK.....so I took one more look at the King Kutter website (because I KNOW I remembered seeing an offset tiller). :D

The standard line of King Kutter tillers has an offset model in a 48" tiller.....but NOT the xb line. So...this standard KK tiller may provide the solution your looking for. Check the search on TBN....I'm sure others with your tractor model will have some advice for you.
 
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I have been running a walk behind tiller between rows for the weeds.
The 4' tiller does so much better job than the walk behind, it leaves the soil like saw dust!
Here is a newer pic of my garden area after 25-30 inches of rain in the last month since the other tilled pics. I had 1 3/4" of rain just today! The soil now is like pudding 8" deep. Everything growing is now ruined.
 

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Hey Guys, love this forum immensely --it has helped me so much.

ok...I am about to throw down some $$$ on a tiller. Now I have heard (and you know how that goes) that my JD2210 should have a 4' tiller. but
1* I don't like the fact that i will have even the tiniest strip of tire tracks being left behind as i till forward....so can I go 5' or is there possibly something in between...???
1*48'' ought to cover the tracks of a JD 2210 should it not?

What is your PTO HP?
2** I'm sure you could run a 60". But if your like me I'm not a cowboy, I like to take my time and make multiple passes.
2* 60 is 2 wide.

3*According to the specs I just looked at.....the 2210 has 17 PTO HP.
4* Not enough if you have a gear tranny.....
3* A 2210 will easly handle a 4 footer.
4* But the 2210 is not a gear tranny.....
 
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I think the 2210 is approx. the same width as the BX series and a 4' tiller takes out both rear tire tracks, unless you have wheel spacers attached. Have you tried a 4' and know for sure it won't cover your tracks?
 
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A lot of companies make a 50" or 52" tiller. I just purchased a Land Pride RTA 1050. My 2350 Kubota BX has 17 hp at the pto...about what you have. Also the RTA 1050 can be off set with minimal adjustment.

Could you pull a 60"... maybe but the 50" ought to do it for you. My back tires are a bit less than 46" apart and I've never seen tire track. I also have plenty of power that I might not have with a 5' tiller. The 50" also give me a lot more manuverability, much more than a 5 footer.

As to reverse till vs forward till...that fight will probably go on forever.

Good luck on your purchase!!!

Paul
 
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I don't like the fact that i will have even the tiniest strip of tire tracks being left behind as i till
d
What makes you think a 48'' won't cover your tracks?????

I think the 2210 is approx. the same width as the BX series and a 4' tiller takes out both rear tire tracks attached.
Have you tried a 4' and know for sure it won't cover your traks?
I can't figure out why he mistakenly thinks 48'' won't cover his tracks.
 
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A 4 ft tiller is about right for a 2210. You might be able to handle a 5 ft but in some soils it will be too much tiller for the HP. A 5 ft will also be a bit heavy for it. I have a 4 ft and it's just right with the offset a bit to one side.
 
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Hey Guys, love this forum immensely --it has helped me so much.

ok...I am about to throw down some $$$ on a tiller. Now I have heard (and you know how that goes) that my JD2210 should have a 4' tiller. but I don't like the fact that i will have even the tiniest strip of tire tracks being left behind as i till especially since, among other things, i am going to seed some grass after I till. now I have also heard (o boy) that the newer tillers are not hard on the pto since they rotate forward....so can I go 5' or is there possibly something in between...???

thanks...and look forward to a reply....

d

Back in 2003 I bought a 5' KK tiller and ran it on my 2210. It could lift it fine, you just need at least the loader frame on to keep the front tires down enough to steer. Now on the power side, you have to go real slow, and sometimes cant go all the way deep or you will bog the engine down to killing it. If you take your time and pay attention all the time, a 2210 will run a 5' KK tiller.
 
 

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