Backhoe 3pt vs. frame mount backhoe

[twomanytractors]

I'm thinking about a backhoe for my B7610. What are the pros/cons of a factory frame mounted vs. aftermarket 3 pt backhoe?

 

[john_bud]

Con - Kubota will void your warranty on any physical damage anywhere on the machine if a 3pt hoe is used. (Most all are the same, not just K)

Con - weaker mount and wobbly performance from the 3pt vs frame 4 pt mount

Pro - cheaper by a few hundred.

 

[B7510HSD]

I have the B7510 and bought my 3 pt backhoe from Kubota so I would have the warranty with the tractor and so far after 3 years not a glitch!!

 

[jpm]

con: parts of your body between tractor and hoe = possible large dr.bills
pros: none except a few $ cheeper

 

[JDeerekid]

Do a search on here and you will get alot of comments and information. There are alot of threads on this subject. Most will tell you to get a subframe.

 

[TrippleT]

Some people have had the tractor break in half with the three pointers.

 

[NHbotanut]

I have the same tractor with a Woods 70X subframe BH. I can't speak for the 3 PT type, but I really like how solid the unit feels. I supose if you change a lot 3 PT implements, it would be a plus. Personally, when I put the hoe back on after winter, it generally doesn't come off until next winter for the blower.

 

[LBrown59]

Con - Kubota will void your warranty on any physical damage anywhere on the machine if a 3pt hoe is used. (Most all are the same, not just K)

Con - weaker mount and wobbly performance from the 3pt vs frame 4 pt mount

Pro - cheaper by a few hundred.

Con -dangerous if something breaks it can crush you.

 

[dfkrug]

I have the B7510 and bought my 3 pt backhoe from Kubota so I would have the warranty with the tractor and so far after 3 years not a glitch!!

Yes, both the Kubota 4672 and the 4690 hoes are 3-pt hoes sold and
warranteed by the company. Even Kubota admits they are not consistent
with company policy re OTHER companies' 3-pt hoes. Go figure.

 

[twomanytractors]

Wow, glad I asked. I was not aware of the potential damage or warranty issues. I would not want to explain to the dealer (or my wife!) how my tractor split in half! So

So my next question is, how difficult is it to install & remove the Kubota frame mount hoe from this tractor?

 

[john_bud]

Should be 5 min or less.

 

[newbury]

I am also looking at a B7610 and need a backhoe - there's a local 3pt WOODS model 750 for sale.
Is it too big for a 7610? Any idea how much a subframe would cost? How difficult would it be to put the BH on and take off?

thanks!!

 

[Freds]

I just bought a 3pt backhoe and here's what the dealer I bought it from said; He would not put a 3pt backhoe on a B series. (He sold both 3pt and subframe hoes, btw.) He said he never heard of a problem with one on an L series (mine) and that was what he was currently using on his tractor. Nevermind the warranty because my tractor was out of warranty anyway. Easy on/off and no subframe to decrease ground clearance. The "few hundred dollars" difference was $7,900 compared to $8,700 for a Woods compared to a Kubota BH.

On a personal note; I have no idea how this thing could fold up on me like mentioned above... I would like to hear more on that.
It's not loose or jerky if your actions are smooth, but I can see where a subframe unit would have an advantage here.
And I love this thing. I should have boughten one years ago. I trenched about 200' yesterday for some drain lines, moving huge chunks of concrete out of my way with ease. It took me four hours in a couple sittings, which I thought was pretty good considering I just got it. Nice smooth trench, but the ground had a natural fall to it.

 

[newbury]

Well I called a local dealer and they quoted me about 8K for a Woods 7' with 4 point attachment (like the Kubota BH's), a thumb and 2 yr warranty for a B7610.
Now the question I've got is can I use it on a bigger tractor when I'm ready to move up?
The backhoe is going to be worth more than the tractor.

 

[newbury]

I also just found a BH70X advertised - anyone know how difficult it is to get the parts for a 4 point attachment?

 

[Ductape]

A subframe mount is readily available from a Woods dealer. I bought my subframe kit locally,and installed it myself along with the hydraulic loop to power the hoe.

 

[Ductape]

I am also looking at a B7610 and need a backhoe - there's a local 3pt WOODS model 750 for sale.
Is it too big for a 7610? Any idea how much a subframe would cost? How difficult would it be to put the BH on and take off?

thanks!!

I also just found a BH70X advertised - anyone know how difficult it is to get the parts for a 4 point attachment?

I'm going to recommend you stick to the 70X, or at least the 7500 if you are looking at used hoes. The 750 uses a completely different mounting pattern, and you will most likely not find any subframe mount for the 750 on a current tractor.

 

[newbury]

I'm going to recommend you stick to the 70X, or at least the 7500 if you are looking at used hoes. The 750 uses a completely different mounting pattern, and you will most likely not find any subframe mount for the 750 on a current tractor.

Thanks for the response!

 

[medicshawn]

I've heard alot of talk about there being problems with the 3 point mount, but have yet to see anything more than talk. I had a 3 point version on my b7800 wuthout any issues. That being said If I bought another one I would probably get a subframe version.

 

[dillo99]

I have the B7510 and bought my 3 pt backhoe from Kubota so I would have the warranty with the tractor and so far after 3 years not a glitch!!

Ditto. No problems. Love it.