Oil & Fuel 2305 oil change

[newbomb_turk]

Just did my first oil change on my 2305 at 32 hrs. Didn't get to 50 Hrs in my first year! I would get more hrs on it, but it just doesn't take very long to mow my lawn and field!

Anyway, I put the recommended 3.4 qts (Delo 15/40), and it appears to be overfilled. It is up nearly a 1/4" above the full line. Has anyone else seen this? Is there something wrong with the manual/specs? I know I got all of the old oil drained properly, and it was quite warm when I drained it.

Todd

 

[Chris2520]

I cant answer your question. But i do understand why it may be over full.
my 2520 is a bigger tractor with a larger motor. and it only holds
3 quarts........ I have slowly learned the Manual is not always correct.

Chris....

 

[slkpk]

My dealer had me run breakin oil for the first 100 hours before switching to allow everything to be seated correctly. slkpk

 

[JDFANATIC]

turk,

Are you sure? My 2210 only uses 2.1 qts.

 

[ChuckinNH]

Did you change the filter too? That may be what the manual included.

 

[newbomb_turk]

My dealer had me run breakin oil for the first 100 hours before switching to allow everything to be seated correctly. slkpk

I would have run it more, but I have had it one year. Says to change it regardless of the hours after a year.

This link backs up the 3.4 qts in the manual.

TractorData.com - John Deere 2305 tractor data

 

[ChuckinNH]

I guess it comes down to whether you believe the dipstick, or the manual more. I suppose that there is always the possibility that someone installed the wrong dipstick, but I would tend to go by that because I believe that there is more potential to damage the engine with too much oil than there is by not following the manual. I suppose if you put the correct amount of oil in the engine according to the manual, and damaged the engine, you would have a case for having it covered under warranty. Of course you would have to prove that is exactly how much you put in, but there is something in knowing you were the one that was right!

 

[jsb2b]

I've changed my 2305 oil twice in 86 hours. Both times I bought 1 gallon of JD oil, 1 filter, and refilled the crankcase to the dipstick line. I started the engine to fill the oil filter, let it sit for a couple of minutes, and topped off the oil to the full mark on the dipstick. Then I pour the remaining oil out of the gallon container into a quart container and have 3/4 quart of oil in it. This will be for the JS-63C oil change. And the cycle continues year after year.

Ever since I was a kid, I learned to fill to the full mark, start the engine, let it sit, re-check the dipstick, add if necessary, and make a "note" in the owners manual. Never been burned.

 

[newbomb_turk]

I guess it comes down to whether you believe the dipstick, or the manual more. I suppose that there is always the possibility that someone installed the wrong dipstick, but I would tend to go by that ...

I checked after it sat all night, and it was still at the same level. There were quite a few bubbles, but apparently not enough to bring it down very much at all.

I drained 3/4 qt (couldn't save the oil), and now it is just below full. Looks like the amount needed to fill this thing is about 2 3/4 - 3 qt. Kind of irritating at $4.00 per qt.

Todd

 

[BIGWES]

turk,

Are you sure? My 2210 only uses 2.1 qts.

This is good information to know. I have a 2305 (sister tractor of 2210),
and my dealer told me 3.4 quarts also. Guess I will stop at 2 quarts and recheck level. I have always heard that overfilling with oil leads to problems.

 

[BIGWES]

I checked after it sat all night, and it was still at the same level. There were quite a few bubbles, but apparently not enough to bring it down very much at all.

I drained 3/4 qt (couldn't save the oil), and now it is just below full. Looks like the amount needed to fill this thing is about 2 3/4 - 3 qt. Kind of irritating at $4.00 per qt.

Todd

Todd, thanks for posting this information. My dealer told me the same thing and I am nearing my first oil change. I would have done the same thing you did thinking that is the way its suppose to be. I have found out that those manuals are not always reliable, they are vague on their explanations at best.

 

[JDFANATIC]

BIG WES,

You guys aren't seeing big mice, the 2305 manual does say 3.4 qts. However, I find it hard to see why Deere/Yanmar upped the fossil fuel requirement to give the same performance???

Please, let us all know what the correct ammount is.

 

[newbomb_turk]

BIG WES,

Please, let us all know what the correct ammount is.

I actually put three in, and it looked good. However, the tractor was sloping ever-so-slightly sidways with the dipstick on the down side (driveway is sloped a bit). I though that was what was making it read high. Dummy me dumped in the extra 2/5ths qt and it was too much.

I'll bet 3 qts is about perfect.

Todd

 

[johnnydel29]

This happended to me, added about 3.4, and ended up overfilling.

Have have 180 hours on my 2305 and 3 quarts is what I use and ends up being the perfect amount.

3.4 quarts is probably the amount if there is abosolutely NO residual oil in the engine. Remeber, there is going to be some oil still in the engine after it has been drained.

- J

 

[JiminGa]

I just fill it like the tranny, add a little and check, add a little and check, till it gets where it needs to be.

 

[BIGWES]

BIG WES,

You guys aren't seeing big mice, the 2305 manual does say 3.4 qts. However, I find it hard to see why Deere/Yanmar upped the fossil fuel requirement to give the same performance???

Please, let us all know what the correct ammount is.

JDFanatic looks like 3 quarts is a winner for me also. Guess that is the price
that JD charges us for 1 more horsepower.

 

[moose736]

I just performed my 50 hour oil change, replacing the oil and filter. I used exactly 3.25 quarts (3 quarts, 8 ounces). The dipstick is exactly at the "full" line.

This is the method I used. After draining the old oil and replacing the filter, I filled with 3 quarts, started the engine for a minute or so. Then I added oil and measured until it was almost to the full line on the dipstick, started the engine for another minute, then added until it was right at the full line. Then I rode the tractor around for about 5 minutes, waited 5 minutes after turning off the engine and measured again....it's still at the full line.

This might be a silly question...does anyone know what quantity of oil the hatched area on the 2305 dipstick represents? I'll assume it's a quart.

 

[Willl]

I know I got all of the old oil drained

No way, it's impossible to get ALL the oil out.

Just ain't going to happen.

 

[JGY]

I just performed my 50 hour oil change, replacing the oil and filter. I used exactly 3.25 quarts (3 quarts, 8 ounces). The dipstick is exactly at the "full" line.

This is the method I used. After draining the old oil and replacing the filter, I filled with 3 quarts, started the engine for a minute or so. Then I added oil and measured until it was almost to the full line on the dipstick, started the engine for another minute, then added until it was right at the full line. Then I rode the tractor around for about 5 minutes, waited 5 minutes after turning off the engine and measured again....it's still at the full line.

moose736,

i bet you five dollars that when your engine is "cold" -- the OM states to check the oil level when the engine is "cold" -- it's gonna read way over full.

j

 

[spruce Deere]

My dealer told me to go 100 hrs for the 790 on the break-in. They have had tractors eating oil after a 50hr change. Most of the time, it was from running compact tractors 5-10 mins at a time for the whole 50 hours. The engine would never get to operating temp or full loads in general not REALLY using the darned thing. The fix after a disgruntled owner complaned of new tractor using oil after break-in, was hook it to the dyno, actually make the thing work, get to oper. temp and a good load, full throttle for an hour. Oil consumption quit, engine ran better. I found four quarts plus some in the pre-filled filter from same gallon is perfect. Manual calls for 4.3qts