OMG what a mess.

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I was clearing off some more property Friday and remember something hitting the bottom of the tractor, but never got off to check for any damage.

I did a full service on the tractor yesterday and found a big problem.

It doesn't leak, but could be a problem later if i needed to unhook them, but i could unhook the second hose first then unhook the first hose.
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Should i leave it alone since it doesn't leak?

Should i go ahead and get the parts to fix it?

Or could i unhook them and try to bend it back out?_____:eek:
 
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Boy that's bent in a real oddball way for something coming from underneath, I'd say you dodged a bullet any more twisting there and something would of let loose.

This is just a suggestion and others may disagree but that hard line is gonna be the tricky part, if you take it apart and straighten the bracket which will be fairly simple, your gonna have trouble getting that steel line to line up. trying to bend the steel line by it self might kink it.

You might try and take the loader hose off those 2 outboard lines and try and bend the bracket and that outermost steel line at the same time this way everything stays lined up, you don't need to have it come out perfectly straight but as long as you can get to the disconnects to take them on and off easily when needed, you should be good.

If you could slip a very large adjustable wrench over that bracket and force it rearward grab the line with your other hand and try to persuade it to move the way it needs to go.

This may be all easier said than done but might be worth a try.

Good Luck, JB.
 
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Boy that's bent in a real oddball way for something coming from underneath, I'd say you dodged a bullet any more twisting there and something would of let loose.

This is just a suggestion and others may disagree but that hard line is gonna be the tricky part, if you take it apart and straighten the bracket which will be fairly simple, your gonna have trouble getting that steel line to line up. trying to bend the steel line by it self might kink it.

You might try and take the loader hose off those 2 outboard lines and try and bend the bracket and that outermost steel line at the same time this way everything stays lined up, you don't need to have it come out perfectly straight but as long as you can get to the disconnects to take them on and off easily when needed, you should be good.

If you could slip a very large adjustable wrench over that bracket and force it rearward grab the line with your other hand and try to persuade it to move the way it needs to go.

This may be all easier said than done but might be worth a try.

Good Luck, JB.


Very good answer and I agree with the crescent wrench to straighten out the bracket. I was also thinking you need to be able to bend the steel line back into position and think something like a pex crimping tool may be useful to you. It has the smooth round tubing jaws that would enable you to wrap around the tubing to bend it back to shape. Another tool that may work is one electricians use to bend large service cables about a foot long with a C shaped opening that is hooked around the wire to bend tight corners in them. A third tool idea is using a pipe wrench to accomplish the bending but if you do make sure you wrap it well as the edges of the jaws can cut or kink the tubing.
At any rate the most you are out would be the one piece of tubing if it breaks. I dont think you will be able to bend it much by hand though.

Good luck with your project.



Steve
 
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If you could slip a very large adjustable wrench over that bracket and force it rearward grab the line with your other hand and try to persuade it to move the way it needs to go.
JB.

I thought about the wrench and slip a long pipe on it and see if it will start to bend back, and yes that is a oddball bend.

If i have to buy new parts, i may have to buy a couple lines too.

After this mess, i may see if i can make a shied to go on the bottom.

Thanks JB.
 
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No need for a cheater pipe just a 12 " crescent and the bracket will bend back in place. The bigger issue is bending the tubing at the same time, tweak the bracket a little and then the tubing alternately, moving the bender along the tubing as you go.


Steve
 
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"If i have to buy new parts, i may have to buy a couple lines too. "

The only damage is the hard line the couplers and the flexible line are OK

"After this mess, i may see if i can make a shied to go on the bottom."

Good idea, when I bought my 110 tlb i ordered the skid plate and rear stabilizer guards with th unit. Things happen this isn't a big deal to fix.

Thanks JB.[/QUOTE]

FWIW, this damage looks like it was incurred while you were backing up, something bent the plate forward




Steve
 
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I have a good relationship with my John Deere dealer. I would let him fix it. It may cost but, in my opinion it would be done right. You might ask if they could design a metal guard for your hose couplings as well.
 
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No need for a cheater pipe just a 12 " crescent and the bracket will bend back in place. The bigger issue is bending the tubing at the same time, tweak the bracket a little and then the tubing alternately, moving the bender along the tubing as you go.


Steve

The only reason i was going to use a cheater pipe was because i have a bad wrist. I guess the cheater pipe could do more damage.

I haven't really checked the line over to see if there is a bend in it, but there probably is, I'll check on those tools if needed.

I figure the line has a lot of pressure keeping it from bending back.

Thanks for the reply.
 
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Well I can tell you that steel tubing is pretty stiff if that is what you mean by pressure. With the engine off and working the loader valve lever a time or two there is no hydraulic pressure in the line with the loader on the ground.




Steve
 
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That's a cosmetic ding, as mentioned previously release the loader valve pressure and use a cresent wrench to put it back in place, you should be good to go!

I'd prolly put an 8" cresent wrench on the top of the bracket above the fitting and a 12" cresent under the fitting on the bracket and push towards the rear tire.
 

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