Tieing a BX24 to a Trailer

[LBrown59]

Dick, What is the length of your trailer. It also looks like it is a pretty stout rig, 7000# or more.

Thanks

16 feet

 

[megaboz]

Well, I wanted to thank everyone for their replies. Unfortunately I did go with straps this time around, and nothing bad happen, well at least the tractor didn't fall off.

But I did have some problems getting the tractor on the trailer. I started inching my way up the ramps and the front tires starting spinning, I thought at first it was just lack of traction on the front tires, so I got a little run for it. Didn't help. So looking around I noticed that all the tires were spinning. I was hung up. The BH bucket was dragging the ground. So I raised it in the air, still the tractor wouldn't go up the ramps. THen I noticed that it was the bottom of BH on the ground. I decided if it wouldn't go forwards, it would go backwards, so I started backing up the ramp watching that I didn't run off, then I hear a clank. Not the bottom of the BH was hitting the trailer. I scratched my head, not really thinking about what ould happen, I turned the tractor around again and this time when it bottomed out, I use the bh to lift it off the ground and help push it onto the trailer. Made it on the trailer and then thought, how's it going to come off? I didn't really want to use the same method, fortunately I remembered an old trick that alot of equipment operators use, banks of dirt.

So after that, I was in good shape.

I love some of the mods I've seen, some have really given me some good ideas.

 

[Firefighter Kubota]

But I did have some problems getting the tractor on the trailer. I started inching my way up the ramps and the front tires starting spinning, I thought at first it was just lack of traction on the front tires, so I got a little run for it. Didn't help. So looking around I noticed that all the tires were spinning. I was hung up. The BH bucket was dragging the ground. So I raised it in the air, still the tractor wouldn't go up the ramps. THen I noticed that it was the bottom of BH on the ground. I decided if it wouldn't go forwards, it would go backwards, so I started backing up the ramp watching that I didn't run off, then I hear a clank. Not the bottom of the BH was hitting the trailer. I scratched my head, not really thinking about what ould happen, I turned the tractor around again and this time when it bottomed out, I use the bh to lift it off the ground and help push it onto the trailer. Made it on the trailer and then thought, how's it going to come off? I didn't really want to use the same method, fortunately I remembered an old trick that alot of equipment operators use, banks of dirt.

Obviously you don't want to need dirt banks all the time to load unload...
What is your trailer? Post some pics Please.

Sounds like you might need longer ramps, or a beaver tail trailer.

 

[BX24FOR5]

Who made your toothbar?

How do you like it?

Any advice?

Thankyou

 

[megaboz]

Fortuantely the trailer was borrowed. So learned some valuable lessons on the cheap. I know to look for something that has longer ramps in the future. I started pricing new trailers, but they are just a bit higher than what I want to pay. I was looking at an 18 footer with a metal deck, beaver tail, 7000 lb and slide out ramps. It was about $2500. For me that seems high, so I might look into the "used market".

 

[Firefighter Kubota]

Fortuantely the trailer was borrowed. So learned some valuable lessons on the cheap. I know to look for something that has longer ramps in the future. I started pricing new trailers, but they are just a bit higher than what I want to pay. I was looking at an 18 footer with a metal deck, beaver tail, 7000 lb and slide out ramps. It was about $2500. For me that seems high, so I might look into the "used market".

Thats a fair price for that trailer.

The used market is always good, make sure the brakes are in good order, thats the biggest issue with used equipement trailers.

I recommend a PT deack rather than metal. Better tractor / friction between the tires and the trailer especially in snowy weather. On an unlevel ground in the snow , the tractor might have a tendancy to slide sideways as you load unload, even with the diamond plate surface.

If you accidently drop something on the deck, dents stay for ever, PT is more forgiving...

If you use the trailer to haul other items, rocks, lumber etc. they also tend to slide less.

just a few thoughts

 

[LBrown59]

Fortuantely the trailer was borrowed. So learned some valuable lessons on the cheap. I know to look for something that has longer ramps in the future. I started pricing new trailers, but they are just a bit higher than what I want to pay. I was looking at an 18 footer with a metal deck, beaver tail, 7000 lb and slide out ramps. It was about $2500. For me that seems high, so I might look into the "used market".

I'm lookin for an 18' tilt bed.Prefer a HYD tilt.
Don't need no bever tail or ramps with that.

 

[LBrown59]

But I did have some problems getting the tractor on the trailer. I started inching my way up the ramps and the front tires starting spinning, I thought at first it was just lack of traction on the front tires, so I got a little run for it. Didn't help. So looking around I noticed that all the tires were spinning. I was hung up. The BH bucket was dragging the ground. So I raised it in the air, still the tractor wouldn't go up the ramps. THen I noticed that it was the bottom of BH on the ground. I decided if it wouldn't go forwards, it would go backwards, so I started backing up the ramp watching that I didn't run off, then I hear a clank. Not the bottom of the BH was hitting the trailer. I scratched my head, not really thinking about what ould happen, I turned the tractor around again and this time when it bottomed out, I use the bh to lift it off the ground and help push it onto the trailer. Made it on the trailer and then thought, how's it going to come off? I didn't really want to use the same method, fortunately I remembered an old trick that alot of equipment operators use, banks of dirt.

Obviously you don't want to need dirt banks all the time to load unload...
What is your trailer? Post some pics Please.

Sounds like you might need longer ramps, or a beaver tail trailer.

How you gonna build a dirt ramp to unload the trailer

 

[KeithInSpace]

Should I set the BH on the deck and strap the bucket to the deck too, or should I use the PINS and leave it hanging?

Should I throw a strap acrosss the FEL and should I tip the bucket up side down and tie down?

As far as actually loading the trailer, I assume it is safe and best practice to try to keep the load balanced on the trailer while maintaining a safe load on the tongue.

My personal experience: I used 10,000# straps to transport my tractor to NC one time...first time and last time. When I got most of the way there, we stopped at the local hardware store and I saw that 3 of the 4 straps had been severed. If there is ANY movement across ANY edge or narrow surface, it will chew through a nylon strap faster than a hungry mouse.

Since that experience, I will never use anything other than chains.

A standard chain hook fits perfectly over the frame rails of the BX, and there are other chain locations at the rear. Although, I do like the loop that someone welded to their grill guard...might have to steal that.

In chaining my tractor to my trailer, I use two 16' lengths of chain, use all 4 hooks to connect to the tractor, and take up the slack with one over-center binder and one ratchet binder. All 4 of the hooks are on the tractor, not the implements. I then rest the FEL and BH buckets on the trailer deck. I don't tie either down or flip the FEL bucket over. I don't pin the BH boom up since the trailer bounces over some larger bumps and I'd rather not have the stress on those components.

I then have a 3rd chain to lash any implements I may be transporting down to the deck.

And when loading, I watch my tow vehicle as I'm loading and drive forward on my trailer until I see the weight transfer to the tongue. Slide forward 6 more inches to load the tongue, and it's home. With the BH installed, the main body of the tractor is fairly centered in the wheel wells. The wheels of my 20' trailer are set back a bit, so my tractor looks like it's riding on the 'rear' part of the trailer, but it is the honest load center. Load to the trailer's center...not to the geometric center, but the weight center.

 

[LBrown59]

But I did have some problems getting the tractor on the trailer. I started inching my way up the ramps and the front tires starting spinning, I thought at first it was just lack of traction on the front tires, so I got a little run for it. Didn't help. So looking around I noticed that all the tires were spinning. I was hung up. The BH bucket was dragging the ground. So I raised it in the air, still the tractor wouldn't go up the ramps. THen I noticed that it was the bottom of BH on the ground. I decided if it wouldn't go forwards, it would go backwards, so I started backing up the ramp watching that I didn't run off, then I hear a clank. Not the bottom of the BH was hitting the trailer. I scratched my head, not really thinking about what ould happen, I turned the tractor around again and this time when it bottomed out, I use the bh to lift it off the ground and help push it onto the trailer. Made it on the trailer and then thought, how's it going to come off? I didn't really want to use the same method, fortunately I remembered an old trick that alot of equipment operators use, banks of dirt.

Obviously you don't want to need dirt banks all the time to load unload...
What is your trailer? Post some pics Please.

Sounds like you might need longer ramps, or a beaver tail trailer.

How you gonna build a dirt ramp to unload the tractor when the tractor is on the trailer??