New B owners

[Farmall45b]

This question is to all who own a new model B. B2320,2620, and 2920. I am wondering what the quality of welding and pain is on your tractors and implements. I am especially interested in how scratched the tractor was when you got it, how the welds and paint look on the loader and implements and are all the decals staying attached to the implements? How satisfied were you with you purchasing expeariance? I am trying to gauge what others have gone through to decide if I have a quality problem or a valid complaint at all.

 

[teg]

It would really help if you post photos of what you are talking about. (if you have trouble posting photos, just ask...) I don't have a tractor that you are talking about but I did look at my welds and while not perfect, they are fine.

Have you seen this thread:
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...4048-acceptable-quality-brand-new-kubota.html

 

[Usta]

I bought a BX 2660 with mowing deck and FEL a couple weeks ago that now has 5 hours on it.
The paint is excellent everywhere. No scratches and the decals are good. As stated, the welds are good but not perfect.
More info on your complaint/comments would be helpful.

 

[Evil the Weasel]

Everything on mine is great. There were a few light scratches where the ROPS folds, but there are even more now from lowering/raising it.

 

[johan3400]

My B2920 is excellent. I looked it all over before I took delivery on it.

 

[WaxMan]

I don't know if you seen this post or not , But if you just bought one and it's not perfect bring it back Don't settle for less, others will tell you to live with it, It's a tractor, But there tractor is not like that.
Don't listen to them otherwise you will be sending the wrong message to Kubota. It's your money get the better one let the next guy get the crap. Kubota thinks were all farmers that use the **** out of our tractors and don't care how they look. Kubota is trying to see what they can get away with. '
STOP if it's not perfect and other tractors are bring it back and demand your money back or another tractor, Don't settle for less.
Read this post if you haven't already.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...4048-acceptable-quality-brand-new-kubota.html

 

[Botabill]

I just bought a B2620 2 months ago. I have some concerns that the fit and finish and weld quality aren't as good as my previous Kubota BX 1800 but they weren't bad enough to reject the unit. No paint scratches. When I put more hours on it (currently it only has 25 hours on it) I will give a no holds barred critical review of my B2620. Cheers!

 

[whbob]

I have a 2920 with loader that I purchased in June. I have no problems with the general fit and finish including welds. The dealer did shorten the L - shaped air-filter tube so that it would not rub the underside of the hood. I would recommend this model if it fits your needs.

 

[Farmall45b]

I will have to see if I can take some picture this weekend for everyone to weigh in on. I have seen the other thread regaurding quality on new Kubotas. This thread may have pushed me to take a closer or more critical look at my tractor. I was not happy with my tractor purchase from day one due to many delivery, financing, and insurance problems that are still not resolved. I really am impressed with what the tractor will do in terms of work, but I am not totally happy with things that I would consider fit and finish items.

1. The welds on the loader to not look very good. There is lots of splatter that is falling off exposing bare metal. The decals are starting to peel a bit. Not anything really big, but it is is starting when new what happens down the road? What if a weld does break?
2. The support brakst for the snowblower crank looks like it was dipped in a bucket of paint and allowed to drip dry. Now after use, some of the paint has fallen off from vibration. Not really a big deal, and I can repaint the bracket. Not really an imparment to operation, but as everyone knows, the front mount blowers cost a good deal of monet.
3. The serial number sticker is already peeling from the quick hitch. Better record that serial number before it is gone for good.

These are some of my biggest complaints. There are others along the same lines on different parts/implements, but generally the same quality issues are pressent elsewhere. I like the tractor, it performs well, but I spent $18,000 and some of these fit and finish things bother me a bit. The tractor will get used, but also washed when needed and I won't go out of my way to damage or scratch the tractor. I wonder if my tractor is the exception or if everyone is going through the same sort of things. What would you do? I just want to look back and be happy in the end, be it getting over these issues becuase everyone is like that, or speaking up to my dealer and Kubota while I have the chance so that I don't wish I had down the road.

 

[steverichmond]

I purchased a B2320 3 months ago that replaced my BX2350. I've been following the thread that waxman linked and have to say my 2320's welds appear to be very good. It does have a few small scratches on the ROPS and on small scratch on the hood, but nothing to get excited about. So far I am very happy with the machine.

Thanks,
Steve

 

[Evil the Weasel]

The decals can be glued backed down and Kubota can either replace or repaint your crank bracket. I had to repaint the whole hydro pedal on my old Kubota as all the gray paint on the contact surface peeled off over time. I'd say you have some very minor issues and perhaps a more major one with the loader. You shouldn't have to deal with these things, but they are made by human beings and perfection is a goal seldom achieved.

 

[SGStriglos]

I purchased a B2920 with FEL, MMM, and a BH with Thumb a couple months ago. I now have over 70hrs on the rig. I do remember a couple very small scratches, but all in all the paint looked great. Keep in mind I was moving up from a B7100 I have owned for 25 years. The welds on the loader and the backhoe look just like the photo's in Bandaman's thread. I also have welding splatter on front guard and BH. I didn't even notice the welds or splatter till I read the thread, and had owned it 2 months. Honestly, they don't bother me. My previous tractor gave me many years of great service and I expect this one will also. I paid my hard earned cash for the quality engineering that goes into these products. The cosmetics are superficial. Quite simply...it is just a piece of equipment I enjoy using and it makes my quality of life better.

I agree with most of the folks about the welds should look better, and the splatter is silly.....but neither will effect the service I receive from the equipment nor the dealer. I don't earn a living with tractor, nor do i plan on selling it for many years.

 

[Charlton John]

Purchased my 2620 in the end of June. When test driving I noticed a couple scratches on the ROPS where they fold. I pointed it out to the salesman and he had them touched up before delivery. I had this problem with my first tractor purchase which was a New Holland didnt notice them until after delivery as I was new to tractors and didnt think to look over very well. I luckily learned my lesson this go around so I was very thorough in looking it over. The welds on mine are actually very smooth so no issue for me here. I now have 45 hard hrs. on mine (from 7/1 till mid Nov) and I have had no problems w/ the stickers. Also I purchased 2 implements at the time of purchase (one was a perfect match Kubota Oarnge the other not, both were new and never used but sitting in their field for a few months, I noticed just some normal weathering on the scarifers etc... pointed this out to them as well and these were also re-painted for me, luckily I have a great dealer)

I would bring these issues up to the dealer and if no luck than w/ Kubota. Especially if as you said there are welding splats that are now falling off and exposing bare metal. Sure these are heavy duty machines that are going to take some abuse and battle scars every now and then but better them done by you using your machine as opposed to bad quality. Good Luck!

 

[ChuckinNH]

This subject comes up now, and then. Sometimes I think there is a little buyers remorse in the motivation for complaining. By the time we are old enough to be buying these tractors, and have a use for them, we should know ourselves well enough to know how much this kind of thing is going to bother us. If we are the kind who are bothered by it, then we should darn well look over the things we buy very carefully. If we just want others to feel a bit sorry for us, that is another matter, and if we buy with a little impulse, and are somewhat sorry we spent all that money for something like this, that is another matter too. If you buy something that truly upsets you a week later when you get around to looking at it closely, then shame on you. I accept those things that might not have been visible when one purchases like a small oil leak, or a nut crossthreaded, but normally the tractor that is delivered is the one you looked at, and you had two chances to check it out. Sorry, no support for your crying from me.

 

[WaxMan]

This subject comes up now, and then. Sometimes I think there is a little buyers remorse in the motivation for complaining. By the time we are old enough to be buying these tractors, and have a use for them, we should know ourselves well enough to know how much this kind of thing is going to bother us. If we are the kind who are bothered by it, then we should darn well look over the things we buy very carefully. If we just want others to feel a bit sorry for us, that is another matter, and if we buy with a little impulse, and are somewhat sorry we spent all that money for something like this, that is another matter too. If you buy something that truly upsets you a week later when you get around to looking at it closely, then shame on you. I accept those things that might not have been visible when one purchases like a small oil leak, or a nut crossthreaded, but normally the tractor that is delivered is the one you looked at, and you had two chances to check it out. Sorry, no support for your crying from me.

Wrong,
Seven people replied saying their tractor and welds were Ok, perfect , and fine one replied his was like Bandmans. ChuckinNH didn't say what his looked like but I assume his are fine. Don't blame the new owner for asking and call it crying.

The new B owner is just seeing how the other new B's are. I think he got his answer. His tractor is of a lower quality then so far seven maybe eight new tractor owners.
You would have a case for buyers remorse If all the other new B's were just like his. But they are not, There is a quality problem here and it's not the New tractor owners fault as you are inferring, he has every right to get a quality tractor like you and the other 7 tractor owners, If he didn't post How would he know. It's as simple as that. This thread is going to be the same as Bandmans, The people that don't care about quality are all going to chime in and that is their right and opinion, to each his own But it's not their "New" tractor is it.

This doesn't sound like crying to me.
Farmall45b
QUOTEThis question is to all who own a new model B. B2320,2620, and 2920. I am wondering what the quality of welding and pain is on your tractors and implements. I am especially interested in how scratched the tractor was when you got it, how the welds and paint look on the loader and implements and are all the decals staying attached to the implements? How satisfied were you with you purchasing expeariance? I am trying to gauge what others have gone through to decide if I have a quality problem or a valid complaint at all.

 

[Evil the Weasel]

It doesn't sound like crying to me either. I think we've all learned through this thread and Bandaman's that you really need to look over the equipment before you buy it, if you actually even care about such things. If you can plunk down 20K+ on something that was poorly built, but fully functional and are not bothered whatsoever, then fine.

My dealer didn't have my tractor at his location, and I didn't look it over very carefully before I accepted delivery. It's fine, but perhaps I got lucky.

 

[Charlton John]

Wrong,
Seven people replied saying their tractor and welds were Ok, perfect , and fine one replied his was like Bandmans. ChuckinNH didn't say what his looked like but I assume his are fine. Don't blame the new owner for asking and call it crying.

The new B owner is just seeing how the other new B's are. I think he got his answer. His tractor is of a lower quality then so far seven maybe eight new tractor owners.
You would have a case for buyers remorse If all the other new B's were just like his. But they are not, There is a quality problem here and it's not the New tractor owners fault as you are inferring, he has every right to get a quality tractor like you and the other 7 tractor owners, If he didn't post How would he know. It's as simple as that. This thread is going to be the same as Bandmans, The people that don't care about quality are all going to chime in and that is fine, to each his own But it's not their "New" tractor is it.

This doesn't sound like crying to me.
Farmall45b
QUOTEThis question is to all who own a new model B. B2320,2620, and 2920. I am wondering what the quality of welding and pain is on your tractors and implements. I am especially interested in how scratched the tractor was when you got it, how the welds and paint look on the loader and implements and are all the decals staying attached to the implements? How satisfied were you with you purchasing expeariance? I am trying to gauge what others have gone through to decide if I have a quality problem or a valid complaint at all.

Great answer totally agree, it would be a lot different if it was their tractor that had issues

 

[ChuckinNH]

My only point was that if it was poor quality, and it upset him, he shouldn't have accepted it. It's really hard to go back to the dealer later, after you have used the tractor, and make a case about unacceptable visual things. Mine was acceptable to me, and I can't tell you if it is better, or worse than the OP's since I haven't seen any photos of what his looks like. Of course that makes it hard to say that there were 7 tractors better than his too. It is much nicer than anything I used for years when we were farming, and that's a fact. I'm sorry if I upset folks, and didn't mean to do that. My point is not that I feel his complaint is crying, but bringing it up well after it was accepted is.

Edit: On reading the OP's post more carefully, he doesn't mention that he has had the tractor for a while, or even used it. When I read it initially, I assumed that he had. My apologies!

 

[teg]

His personal information says that he has 2 hours... on the tractor.

 

[ChuckinNH]

I've taken my flak jacket off so I can take all the hits fully......