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Hi, Hoping some people out there might have some knowledge on this topic. A small section of my property has some wetlands (cactails, ferns etc...) I want to plant a few trees in this area. I have planted a couple willows so I am familiar w/ these but I was wondering what other trees might strive in this enviroment? Thanks
 
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For softwoods, tamarack or cedar do well in wet areas, for wildlife, nannyberry and red osier dogwood do well with "wet feet" (they just don't grow to be huge). As I remember it, one of the ash family also does well ( I think white). Disking or shallow ploughing along where forest edges the wet area in a year like this (abundant mast crop) will also encourage natural expansion into the wet area. I know this only because I worked with a Forester to prepare a plan for my beaver flood and wetlands and then did a bunch of research on the net :eek:
 
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For softwoods, tamarack or cedar do well in wet areas, for wildlife, nannyberry and red osier dogwood do well with "wet feet" (they just don't grow to be huge). As I remember it, one of the ash family also does well ( I think white). Disking or shallow ploughing along where forest edges the wet area in a year like this (abundant mast crop) will also encourage natural expansion into the wet area. I know this only because I worked with a Forester to prepare a plan for my beaver flood and wetlands and then did a bunch of research on the net :eek:

Thanks a lot studor! Can you elaborate a little on the disking or shallow ploughing, not to sure I understand what you mean, thanks!
 
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BLACK ASH ALSO DO WELL IN WETLANDS BUT THEY DO DRINK ALOT OF WATER 100-200 GALLONS A DAY FOR A MATURE TREES, MH
 
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Alder and cottonwood are great moisture tree's as well. Just watch out for putting anything under or around them as far as buildings or items you don't want hit by falling branches or the tree. Alder is a great wood for firewood and smoking Salmon. Cottonwood is good for making Toilet paper.
 
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Thanks a lot people, keep em coming if there are more. I need to try and soak up as much of this wetland as I can to get to my natural pond at the back of the property. I can get there through another acsess point but it is way to overgrown at this point to get the tractor through and probably wont get to making trails for a couple yrs. w/ all the other projects I need to get done first.
 
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One of the other tree climbers here in the area had told me that a good sized cottonwood can suck up thousands of gallons of water a day. I can believe it. I have cut enough of them and water oozing out 50-60' up in the tree. They like water no mater what the source. (Septic lines, water mains, ponds, rivers, etc). I am not sure if they are native to your area. I would send you seedlings gladly to get them out of my hair :D
 
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One of the other tree climbers here in the area had told me that a good sized cottonwood can suck up thousands of gallons of water a day. I can believe it. I have cut enough of them and water oozing out 50-60' up in the tree. They like water no mater what the source. (Septic lines, water mains, ponds, rivers, etc). I am not sure if they are native to your area. I would send you seedlings gladly to get them out of my hair :D

Thanks Tree Monkey a few trees like this is exactly what I need. What about their life span,any ideas? Also do you get heavy winters in your area. We do here so if yes than I am guessing they would be hardy here as well. I will take any seedlings you have
 
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Look for a "cottonless" cottonwood from a nursery, I believe somehow they *** the tree so as to not get the fruit. We had planted a few but got them too close to the black walnuts :(
 
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You may want to avoid the Ash family with the expansion of the Emerald ash borer. The beetle just showed up in SE Wisconsin. Google EAB or emerald ash borer if your not familiar with it.
 
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WBWI is probably right on the ash borer (sadly).

What is the objective for the tree planting? Do you want to dry the wetland or restore it? Is animal habitat important, birds, waterfowl? Is there open pond?

These things can all change what you do. Also, have a look at what species are successful in your area. The dominant types of trees in local wetlands will probably be best for you too and the local fauna should be accustomed to them. I personally like to use native plants and am not crazy about introducing foreign species in the ecosystem (I know, I'm an idealist!)

Good luck! Sounds like a muddy and fun project.
 
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All of the trees I mentioned are native to your area .The shallow disking or ploughing just exposes soil so the tree seeds have a better chance to establish themselves than in an area that is grass or weed covered. The technique is apparently very useful in abandoned fields or wet edges where grasses and ferns grow up and choke out small trees -- seems to have worked in a couple of areas on my place which had been flooded by beaver and are now recovering (don't ask where the beaver went:eek:) The other thing you can do is transplant some of the species I have talked about from drier areas into the wet area (tamarack for example grows on my trails and I move it before I brush hog them).One of the other guys said use black ash -- he's probably right but I do not know if ash borer is prevalent in your area -- it is not yet in mine. The nanny berry and red osage dogwood help to soak up the water, grow fast, are attractive and are less encouraging to beaver than some of the willows -- and wildlife eat the berries produced, spreading the seed. You should check with your state's forestry department -- they usually have lots of good info and may even provide access to saplings
 
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Hi, Hoping some people out there might have some knowledge on this topic. A small section of my property has some wetlands (cactails, ferns etc...) I want to plant a few trees in this area. I have planted a couple willows so I am familiar w/ these but I was wondering what other trees might strive in this enviroment? Thanks

A tree will use up to 150 gallons of water a day.

Plant a few and you will not have wet lands long.

BTDT
 
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All the trees mentioned are also here in Wisconsin, so they should be good for NY too.

Cottonwood trees get to be huge. Over 100 years old, easy. Buddy has one that is 4-5' across.
 
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Look for a "cottonless" cottonwood from a nursery, I believe somehow they *** the tree so as to not get the fruit. We had planted a few but got them too close to the black walnuts :(

Cottonless variety for sure!!!! God help you, if you don't.
 
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WBWI is probably right on the ash borer (sadly).

What is the objective for the tree planting? Do you want to dry the wetland or restore it? Is animal habitat important, birds, waterfowl? Is there open pond?

These things can all change what you do. Also, have a look at what species are successful in your area. The dominant types of trees in local wetlands will probably be best for you too and the local fauna should be accustomed to them. I personally like to use native plants and am not crazy about introducing foreign species in the ecosystem (I know, I'm an idealist!)

Good luck! Sounds like a muddy and fun project.

Thanks everyone. The purpose of the planting is to help dry up sopme of this section of my property. There is a natural pond about 150 yrds. from this area in concern. I want to get back to this pond from this side of my property, but need to dry and dry it up a little first. Some are insisting to get the cottonless cottonwoods. Why is it so important to get the cottonless ones?? I will be planting these about 200+ feet or so from the house if this makes any difference or not. Thanks!
 
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Thanks everyone. The purpose of the planting is to help dry up sopme of this section of my property. There is a natural pond about 150 yrds. from this area in concern. I want to get back to this pond from this side of my property, but need to dry and dry it up a little first. Some are insisting to get the cottonless cottonwoods. Why is it so important to get the cottonless ones?? I will be planting these about 200+ feet or so from the house if this makes any difference or not. Thanks!


he he he he he..... :rolleyes: .....I have never had the pleasure of actually living near one, better ask someone who has :)
 
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