Opinion wanted b2620 or b2920

[Gronk]

I'm just a newbie at this tractor stuff but not from an automotive standpoint so I'd like to just shed some light on the HP debate.

In gasoline engine terms, 3hp is not much. By the time you convert that into torque, you end up on the short side. Diesel engines are much different however. A 30 hp diesel can believably have in excess of three times the amount of torque as it does horsepower. So 3hp in this case can legitimately be in the neighborhood of 9-12 more ft-lbs of torque and that can be significant.

When using your tractor you are most likely not using all the potential of 26hp when doing anything (100% output all the time) but you are most certainly using all of the torque the engine can provide at some times. (100% of torque output when the load suddenly increases) In heavy snow for example, the extra torque can prevent the engine from bogging down. With a lesser engine you would need to slow down and let the engine spin back up to peak output RPM before continuing; kind of like when your lawn mower chokes on thick grass. More HP is more work over time, more torque is more work at any one instant. If said lawn mower had enough torque not to bog in the thick grass, you could keep working at the same speed through it and wouldn't even be aware that you were using more of the engine's output.

A diesel engine's trump is its torque curve, the more the better.


Sean

 

[Evil the Weasel]

Then why stop at 29hp? The truth is you have to stop somewhere. Kubota has so many models in this range, it gave me brain pain. My old 24hp gas G2460 was an incredible snow removing machine, but it's biggest drawback was the 2wd. Even if I have to go a little bit slower than somebody with a B2920, I think I'll still be really ok this Winter with my rig.

EtW

 

[Killer_B]

I use an old Case 446 18 HP gasser to blow snow here in a snowy part of Ontario and it does the job quite nicely.

It's the craziest thing, but I swear my 30 year old 14HP ariens would handle its 48" front blower much more easily than the Kubota would handle its 51 incher. I have no idea why this is.

KB

 

[Hillfarmer]

I have a b2630 that has 100+ hours on it. I have not found it wanting for power when using the loader, brush cutter, tiller or PHD. The tiller and brush cutter are 48". I do not have a snow blower since here in Charleston, WV we rarely get more than a couple of inches of the white stuff. The tire will still spin long before you bog the engine down. Hope this helps

 

[Ob1kubota]

That's about it... a noticably stronger PTO output for attachments. But there is a look about the B2920 I like too.

 

[G-force]

But there is a look about the B2920 I like too.

I think the 2620 and 2920 are visually identical sans the number plate.

 

[smfcpacfp]

I don't have either model that you mentioned, but I do have a B3030 HSDC. I have 60" Kubota front mounted blower and we get 200 to 350" of snow a year and I plow an area 400' by 25'. This tractor has 30hp. From my experience, I would say either tractor you are considering would have the capability to do the job.

I could do the job with a 10 hp blower with a 48" inch cut, which I did for many years. How hard do you want to push the unit? The deeper and heavier the snow the slower and smaller the cut you make with each pass.

A bigger issue for me would be that the units you are talking about don't have cabs. If I had couple of snowfalls a year, no problem snowing with out protection from the elements. I am out there three to four times a week for 3 1/2 months day and night. A cab makes it a fun job, no cab would be sheer drudgery.

 

[Killer_B]

no cab would be sheer drudgery.

What? A real yooper would say forget the cab. Schnapps is cheaper.

Personally, I like getting out in the weather and moving snow. But then I am in the tropical south of Michigan, which might make a bit of a difference.

KB

 

[ericher69]

smfcpacfp ;

Don't know what the pricing is like in your neck of the woods but here in Ontario Canada I was looking at an extra 5-8k for the 3030cab.

ericher69

 

[smfcpacfp]

smfcpacfp ;

Don't know what the pricing is like in your neck of the woods but here in Ontario Canada I was looking at an extra 5-8k for the 3030cab.

ericher69

I am sure that you are correct on the price difference, but given my situation it is worth it and I guess the price difference wasn't a deal breaker for me. It is also nice to have the cab in the summertime. The air conditioning is nice on hot days and the cab protects you from bugs and pollen. It also reduces the noise a bit.