YM 2500 Almost Purchase

[Yanmar_1700]

I went to the bank and got the money out for the YM 2500 I had heard the dealer in Englewood had left. I did not look at it when I bought my YM 1700 from him. When I saw it and found YM3110 on the fenders and YM 2500 on the chassis. Sombody scraped the model plate off the motor. Is it a 2500 motor or a 3110? Maybe a combination of both or more. He had some other ones ther but it was more of the same with mismatching model numbers. My YM1700 all matches except for the tires. Thanks again to all you folks in TBN for the advice. I would never had thought to check the numbers and where to look for them.

It started right up and the three cylinder sounded good. The dealer wanted $3450 for it, but for a questionable Vietnam rebuild, I thought it was too much. This brings a thought to mind.
Has anyone ever thought of going in on a container purchase?I would be interested in getting the tractor right off the boat and to restore it myself. Perhaps this is already happening. Any body out there heard of this? The YM2500's are going for $2000 plus shipping.

http://www1.sphere.ne.jp/delmundo/farm/farmprice.htm

 

[Cloudguy]

I would be interested in doing this too!

 

[cajunman]

I would be interested in going in on a container. That way I could rebuild & know what I have in a tractor. What is involved?

 

[Yanmar_1700]

I am looking into the details.

 

[rlee6]

I am interested, too.

 

[sirgknight]

How many units are there in a container?

 

[mark777]

Depending on the size of the tractors and/or the implements (tillers ) there are usually 8 in a 20 foot and 15-16 in a 40 foot container.
Mark

 

[thegreatrandini]

/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif This tractor list the 2500 as having a 20 hp 2cyl engine? I thought they were a match for jd with a 3 cyl. Also list the ym 3000 as having the same engine and only $1500.00 bucks. i think they come with 3 cyl and match jd 950 but do not know for sure..... looks fishy!!!

great!

 

[Bluecheck546]

As previous Yanmar owner, I can tell you for sure that the YM2500 is the same horse as JD850- 27Hp, the Ym 3000 is the same as JD 950- 30HP. Shortly I will be posting on ebay a owners manual, and shop service manual the cover JD 850,950, and 1050 tractors.

 

[Tractors4u]

Looks like a simple typo to me. The rest of the specs are consistant with the models.

 

[SteveM]

I thought there were folks on this board who have done the container gig, but maybe not...anyhow, a guy I know bit the bullet and went for a container of grey yanmar and isekis (more isekis now that I think of it) and a bunch of tillers 'thrown in'. It was quite a spectacle when they arrived; looked like someone put the container on end, then dumped the dismantled tractors in from 30ft above....well I am exaggerating, but suffice it to say it took a lot of restoration work to get a set of salable tractors. lots of dented sheet metal and broken parts. I think he resorted to sacrificing a couple of the tractors for parts to complete the others. Long story short, he finally sold through that batch and gave it up....

I would want to work with an importer that you can trust, perhaps go see one of their containers at the dock to get an idea of quality.

 

[thegreatrandini]

Prob is just typo but these dudes r thinkin of buying a container. I think they should check this out before they do!
I doubt they will anyway once they consider the logistics. Thanks for posting!!!

Great

 

[Tractors4u]

I personally know of two importers that have been bringing in grey market tractors for 7 or 8 years now. Because they are considered "regular customers" their exporter in Japan takes care of them. They have only been to Japan a couple of times to "hand pick" tractors. I believe that the exporters in Japan can tell if someone is serious about being an importer and not a one time deal. It may be that they want to get rid of their junk to people that they don't think they will ever deal with again.

 

[California]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( it took a lot of restoration work to get a set of salable tractors. lots of dented sheet metal and broken parts. I think he resorted to sacrificing a couple of the tractors for parts to complete the others. )</font>

I saw this at an importer of VN rebuilts. The packing should have been sufficient to protect these immaculate, flawless appearing tractors. The shipper and receiver were the same family-owned company.

Even after the care that had gone into the reconditioning, the construction of the upper floor in the container was insufficient. Some of the tractors in the 'loft' had punched through and were resting on the ones in the lower level.

They told me they cant get replacement parts, they just build tractors out of whatever arrived and occasionally send an incomplete unit to auction.

What about buying a container in the US instead of dealing with the complexities of importing. Has anyone bought a container from an established importer, one who receives several containers per year?

 

[Yanmar_1700]

I have been searching for a reputable company in Japan to import from. While looking, I ran across this company, http://www.hstractor.com/ and spoke with Ron, the owner. He seem very knowledgeable and only tacks on another $100 per tractor and from what I am coming to understand, he earns his money. Has anyone ever dealt with them? We have to give them about $25,000 to $30,000.

We still need several people to fill a container and then agree on a central location to unload, assemble and load.

 

[bruce1966us]

Been trying to stay out of this one. I have imported thousands of the grey markets. You had better be sure of what you are doing or it will cost you a lot more than what you think you are going to save.

Just my 2 cents,
Bruce

 

[LMTC]

Well now you have some general idea what we deal with. And who do you think is going to open a container at port and let you look in it? For starters, it has to stay sealed for customs. For finishers, the container contents belong to whoever paid for them, and if I ever learned someone had opened one of our containers (other than USDA, customs, who do so and re-seal it) I would be pressing charges, as would the insurance company, as it would open the door for claims of vandalism and theft, among other things. The exporter has no ownership nor control once that container leaves Japan.

I have always marveled at the number of folks who seem to think a container comes in, gets unloaded, the dealer repairs a couple of wheel seals and replaces a light bulb or two, then sells them at a tidy profit. Containers are almost always suprises. If it were easy, everyone would do it.

 

[Tractors4u]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( We still need several people to fill a container and then agree on a central location to unload, assemble and load. )</font>

I know people have done this before, splitting a container that is. Suppose you find a person for each tractor. Then one tractor has a cracked water jacket, one needs new wheel bearings on the rear end, and one is blowing smoke real bad.

I guarantee you that everyone will not be happy with their tractor because there will be at least 1 tractor that will need some serious work.

 

[thegreatrandini]

u right!!!!!

 

[normde2001]

Sure seems like a lot of agravation to save a few hundred bucks on a tractor that may, or may not be any good.