Worst oil change ever

[fustsgt]

Good excuse to epoxy coat it, now?

My barn had a huge oil stain like that in the middle of the floor when I bought the place, so that was my method of solving the problem. Still looks great after 15 years of regularly parking the FEL and pallet forks on the thing, as well as all sorts of welding and other chores.

I epoxy coated the floor of my 24 x 32 work shop, mostly used for wood working. I did find out that Titebond wood glue has a stronger adhesion to the epoxy than the epoxy has to concrete. A fine streight line of concrete dots where the glue fell on the floor.

 

[WinterDeere]

Did you grind with a diamond grinder before applying, or just chemical etch? I did the diamond grinder, and it seems I can't remove that epoxy without removing the concrete below it.

My shop is also used for a lot of woodworking, and I've gotten glue in many places, but never lost any epoxy to it. That said, I've probably never tried to specifically remove the glue if I don't manage to catch it while still wet. It wears or falls away on its own, soon enough.

My epoxy is gouged in a few places from my pallet forks or loader bucket, but it's a barn, I don't sweat it too much. The epoxy I used is very high solids, the coating is over 1/16" thick, probably close 1/8". I put sand in the coating I did in the attached garage, but in the barn I just used a light spread of flakes. It was slick for the first year, but now it's burnished and a nice satin/matte from moving material and machinery around, and doesn't get slick anymore.

 

[QRTRHRS]

I wanted to rotate the tires on my van along with my oil change so I asked my neighbor with a lift in his garage to do it. I don't just stand around and watch, I help lift the tires off and on, etc. He is retired and just "pots" around. Charged me a whole 20 bucks! I buy my own oil and filter.

 

[ljjhouser]

Caver - I had a 2019 ram truck - filter removal was difficult and always a mess. I read here someone recommended using a ziplock bag. Break the filter loose- slide bag over it and unscrew the filter. All the oil went into the bag (most anyway). Best Wishes, Larry

 

[QRTRHRS]

Caver - I had a 2019 ram truck - filter removal was difficult and always a mess. I read here someone recommended using a ziplock bag. Break the filter loose- slide bag over it and unscrew the filter. All the oil went into the bag (most anyway). Best Wishes, Larry

That's what I did when I had my 97'. That and a Fumoto drain valve.

 

[Shenandoah MF1760]

I had a '06 Honda Ridgeline that I bought new that came with a lifetime oil change from the dealer.

Granted it's a ploy to get you in their shop so they can find something wrong or to sell you on another service.

At first I was making them change the oil every 3K, and I must not have been the only one doing that as they changed the policy to only allow an oil change when the vehicle said it was due.

One time after the wife brought the Ridgeline in for an oil change shortly after she left I started getting panicked calls from the dealer for her to bring it back in immediately!!!

I was able to contact her before she'd even gotten a half mile down the road, but in trying to get back to the dealer the engine stalled and wouldn't start.

The dealer sent a pair of techs out to the truck. One brought her back to the dealership while the other "worked" on the truck.

The other tech got the truck running after a few minutes and brought it back to her at the dealership and sent her on her way.

She complained that night that it just didn't "feel" right. I started it up and just listening to the engine was enough for me to shut it back down and tell her it was going back to the dealership.

We believe the dealer either forgot to replace the oil pan drain plug, or never put oil back in after draining it, and the tech that "worked" on getting it started was putting oil into it and praying it wasn't locked up.

Yeah, the dealer hemmed and hawed, squirmed and made more excuses and accusations than I though was possible. But when I explained that our oldest was a master mechanic at the BMW dealer on the other side of the highway and that he was perfectly willing to discuss with our lawyer what he thought had happened they agreed to replace the engine.

They were none to quick about doing that however and we drove a loaner Honda Civic around for about a month and a half.

And I'm sure they put a rebuilt engine in rather than a new crate motor. But the Ridgeline was closing in on 200K so it wasn't too bad a deal despite the inconvenience and delay.

Shortly after that the dealership was sold to another company that refused to honor the lifetime oil changes and that was the last time we brought our vehicles into that dealer for anything.

 

[masseyrider]

I had a '06 Honda Ridgeline that I bought new that came with a lifetime oil change from the dealer.

Granted it's a ploy to get you in their shop so they can find something wrong or to sell you on another service.

At first I was making them change the oil every 3K, and I must not have been the only one doing that as they changed the policy to only allow an oil change when the vehicle said it was due.

One time after the wife brought the Ridgeline in for an oil change shortly after she left I started getting panicked calls from the dealer for her to bring it back in immediately!!!

I was able to contact her before she'd even gotten a half mile down the road, but in trying to get back to the dealer the engine stalled and wouldn't start.

The dealer sent a pair of techs out to the truck. One brought her back to the dealership while the other "worked" on the truck.

The other tech got the truck running after a few minutes and brought it back to her at the dealership and sent her on her way.

She complained that night that it just didn't "feel" right. I started it up and just listening to the engine was enough for me to shut it back down and tell her it was going back to the dealership.

We believe the dealer either forgot to replace the oil pan drain plug, or never put oil back in after draining it, and the tech that "worked" on getting it started was putting oil into it and praying it wasn't locked up.

Yeah, the dealer hemmed and hawed, squirmed and made more excuses and accusations than I though was possible. But when I explained that our oldest was a master mechanic at the BMW dealer on the other side of the highway and that he was perfectly willing to discuss with our lawyer what he thought had happened they agreed to replace the engine.

They were none to quick about doing that however and we drove a loaner Honda Civic around for about a month and a half.

And I'm sure they put a rebuilt engine in rather than a new crate motor. But the Ridgeline was closing in on 200K so it wasn't too bad a deal despite the inconvenience and delay.

Shortly after that the dealership was sold to another company that refused to honor the lifetime oil changes and that was the last time we brought our vehicles into that dealer for anything.

My nieces friend had a new Toyota.
After the second oil change she was driving down the highway when the engine light came on.
By the time she pulled off the damage had been done.
The oil plug had fallen out...
At first the dealer didn't want to do anything aboot it. Then they said they'd put a used engine in.
Her father is a full partner in a large well known local legal practice.
When that came up she got her new engine.
The family stopped having anything to do with that dealership.
It's cost the dealership a fortune being cheap. Everyone drove a Toyota up to that time and renewed them regularly.
Now they're Mazda people.

 

[sixdogs]

Building a new home/barn soon. Thinking about pre-staining the concrete with motor oil.

Better Idea would be to epoxy the floor ASAP before it's full of stuff you'll later have to move. Same with insulation. Do it now.

If you do epoxy the floor, use solvent based epoxy only, for durability. Also, prep the floor correctly. The epoxy I used was Sherwin Williams 9000 or something like that and I've done threads on it. 15 years later it still looks great and it's occasionally been abused.
And I just finished having my 42x60 shop insulated and that cost way more than it would have 25 years ago. That's how I know about that.

 

[old and tired]

Thought long and hard about retelling my hydraulic oil filter change...

What the heck... It was just to change the oil filter, not all of the oil. So I rigged up my shop vac so I would not lose any oil. Had my filter at the ready... flip the shop vac on and started to loosen the filter. Got the second one in the other hand.

Got to the last thread and oil was spraying out 360 degree... a real nice fan shape. That's when I found out that the shop vac sounds the same weather it set up to vacuum or set to blow air...

Luckily, I was able to spin the filter right back on the threads. Swap the shop vac hose back over to suck air... and everything else went according to the plan!

Really thought I was pretty slick there for a moment... until, reality bit my butt!!

 

[AnotherBueller]

I went to change the oil on my wife’s Genesis. It holds 9 quarts so I got my large plastic pan which holds 15+ quarts. Got the car up on the ramps, put the pan under and pulled the plug. All is well so far.

I crawl back under to put the plug back in after10 minutes or so and see about a quart of oil under the pan. Oh crap! THERE IS A CRACK IN THE BOTTOM OF THE PAN.

I go and get a piece of cardboard to slip under the pan so I don’t spread the oil out more than already done. Slide the pan out on the cardboard and realize there is no way to carry the pan with 8 quarts of oil plus hold the cardboard under it outside to the waste can.

OK, I’ll bring the waste can in, put it on the cardboard and pour the oil in.

Put the funnel in the can and start pouring. I get about half the oil in the can and THE FUNNEL FALLS OUT with about a half a quart of oil in it. Hits the floor and splashes oil 10’ in every direction. Oh crap 2!

I go to get the oil dry and find that I don’t have any, just have floor sweeping compound. I spread that around and it helps a little but not like oil dry.

Of course anything within 10’ is splashed with oil and will need to be cleaned separately.

Shoulda stood in bed this morning.

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Think cat litter for back up oil dry, much cheaper.

 

[orezok]

Follow up on my oil dilemma. At the time of the spill I discovered that I didn’t have any oil dry in stock. I was not able to get any until the next day so it had a long time to soak in.

I did have mineral spirits but it did little to remove the stain.

This is what was left after the mineral spirits.

It didn’t help much.

I have used a product from Amazon in the past called Pull it Out and it worked well.

This is what one treatment with the PIO product resolved.

Definitely a great improvement over mineral spirits

I’m going to hit it with another batch of POI and live with the results.

 

[pretendfarmer]

At least you were at home and didn't have to suffer any embarrassment. Long time ago I decided to do an oil change on my 1 ton diesel (12 quarts) behind my buddy's shop, laying on the concrete. His techs were working with the doors open. I was using one of those large 4 gallon drain pans with the small hole in the middle - brand new (worst ******* design ever).

The oil was hot and I pulled the plug. I quickly realized that the speed of the oil coming out of the truck was overwhelming the hole in the drain pan. I watched in horror as it started overflowing. I hurriedly tried to put the oil pan bolt back in and DROPPED IT into the pan. The oil pan bolt blocked the hole completely and by the time I fished it out and got it back into the oil pan, almost all of the 12 quarts was headed down the concrete in a toxic black river.

At least 2 of the techs were watching, and I ran to the first one in a panic and asked where the oil dry was, and he just rolled his eyes at me and ignored me. The 2nd guy told me but by the time I got back to the spill, it had spread some 25 to 30 FEET. I spent HOURS cleaning it up, and there is still a stain to this day, almost 20 years later. Awful experience, and the only time I ever spilled oil.

 

[DieselBound]

Nope, never saw any, and maybe "sludge" is the wrong descriptor to use. I just always assumed that at least some particulates you're draining out with the old oil may have started settling to the bottom of the pan as soon as the motor stopped turning, and that pulling the plug would be a better way to flush them out, than drawing oil out from the top.

Small particles get mixed up in the oil and whisked out when you drain/suck the oil out (remember: you're doing an oil change after the oil has been warmed up). Large ones mean you have big problems: one is either allowing crap into their oil OR the engine is shedding material at an accelerated rate (damage instead of just wear).

"pulling the plug" != "flush" (a "flush" means pressure and the only pressure, if you can call it that, is GRAVITY)

 

[sixdogs]

Caver - I had a 2019 ram truck - filter removal was difficult and always a mess. I read here someone recommended using a ziplock bag. Break the filter loose- slide bag over it and unscrew the filter. All the oil went into the bag (most anyway). Best Wishes, Larry

Actually, that's a great idea and I plan to use it on some tractor oil changes coming up.