Working The Angles

[BWa]

Has anyone heard of good / bad with the 5310 , 4WD's and manual Trans . I am looking to buy a 5320 , but if the offer of a new 5310 comes alone would like to be ready to work a deal IF it is a good option . This will be my first tractor got to do it right ......Thank You

 

[rf33]

I have heard little bad about the Deere 5X10 series. I think that 4WD gives you about two tractor sizes up in performance (like a 5310 MFWD would perform about like a 5510 2WD), but it also costs quite a bit more. I have MFWD, but I think that for most things, a larger 2WD would have been less expensive, and probably been able to do some things better due to higher PTO HP and more weight. As to the manual transmission question, I suppose I would need to know what you mean by manual. I personally do not like the standard collarshift transmission, as this does not let you change gears unless the tractor is at a complete stop/w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif. I have the power-reverser, which is nice for loader work, and also gives you the added advantage of a wet clutch. I hope that this helps.

rf33

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[BWa]

Ok manual as in not HST?
Also could you explain what a SyncShttle trans is ?
Yup ,,,,,, a real newbie here ...lol

 

[cowboydoc]

BWa,
What are you going to do with the tractor? Nothing at all wrong with the 5310. With regard to the transmission there are basically three types. The first is a non-sync transmission that you have to have the tractor completely stopped to shift gears. The synchronzied transmission you can shift as you go like a pickup manual transmission for the main gearbox. Lastly you have the hst. I would definitely get the sychronized transmission.

 

[rf33]

Doc, as far as I know there is no such thing as a HST transmission in the 5000 series tractors. HST transmissions are only available in the 4000 series and smaller. The 5000 has the collarshift transmission, which is the non-syncronized transmission described above, the syncronized transmission which lets you shift on the go between gears not ranges, and the power-reverser which is basically a syncronized transmission, with the addition of the ability to shift from forward to backward without the clutch by simply flipping a lever. A better source of info can be found here

rf33

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[cowboydoc]

rf33,
No you are right I was just letting him know the three types of transmissions that you could find in a tractor. I guess I worded it wrong.

 

[rf33]

Doc, with all of these options on all of these different tractors, it is a wonder any of us ever get anything bought/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif. I think that most farmers are afraid of the HST not being sturdy enough to handle the higher HP of these larger engines. I sure do think that they would be handy to have though. I agree with you that you most likely do not want the collarshift.

rf33

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[Anonymous Poster]

<font color=blue>...most farmers are afraid of the HST...</font color=blue>

Not the sturdy part... it's the reliability aspect... remember back when...the International Hydro's, Case-o-matic, Massey Ferguson Multi-Power, Ford's Select-o-speed, etc.

Most ag bone yard's are loaded with these tractors today... years ago, when they broke down, the dealer's had a tough time fixing them, even the factory didn't seem to understand how to repair them, lots of lost and down time was accumulated with these early hydro's... It certainly left a stale taste in many farmer's mouths for a lasting hydro.

If you owned one of these machines today, you'd be hard pressed to find someone that understand's the system to repair it and if they did... heaven help you, have the bank loan papers filled out... cause it will cost dearly to repair {with certain exceptions}.../w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif

 

[BWa]

Thanks again , I just wanted to make sure of which trans. to order when the time comes, (between now and this Spring ?) It is a big help to have the depth of information that this group has offered , To those of us who are just starting out .

 

[radman]

Miller III is right. Many issues with the reliability of the larger tractors with HST. Many transmissions couldn't withstand heavy use and were too expensive to repair. Most now sit in junkyards or in fence rows. At auction these tractors bring next to nothing because too $ to repair or fix. Most were introduced in the early to mid 70's. Our newer CASE-IH (180 hp) allows smooth shifting under full load without clutching. Even current GST don't do that well.