Woods BH75 backhoe/TC-29D questions-subframe

[thclimer]

The back hoe subframe on my TC33D does use any part of the 3 pt system. The entire subframe and BH come off, nothing is left on when the BH is removed.

When I bought my 757C 24 years ago there wasn't the availability of small excavators that there is today. If was purchasing my TC33D today I would never buy a BH for it. They work, and I have used mine a lot over the years. A tractor BH doesn't compare to what a small excavator can do, they are in 2 different categories.

If you do go with the 757C route do you weld or know someone who does as I'd guess your going to have to modify that subframe. I have read too many threads where someone was using a 3pt mounted BH and broke their rear casing destroying their tractor. This one of the big disadvantages of BH even mounted to a tractor with a subframe, you still need to be very careful of the damaging lateral forces that the BH can exert on your tractor.

 

[walk4rams]

Thanks all for the help and wisdom! Looks like the subframe is a woods, wasnt sure they made subframes ? I supposed they are pretty good? I didnt see any crossmembers on the frame, are they needed (maybe after market). I confirmed no three point conections as the owner thought. Got busy today didn't get a chance to call the gentleman.

 

[John_Mc]

Years ago I bought a used Woods 7500 backhoe that was set up for use on the 3 pt hitch. Tried it once on my TC33D for some light digging and realized I really needed a subframe mount. Talked to my local New Holland/Woods dealer. They advised me at the time that Woods was coming out with a new "4 point quick hitch sub frame" and to wait for that, since it was reputed to be much more convenient than their older style. When it came out, it was only announced to fit the TC33DA. It did not mention the TC33D. They suggested ordering it and if necessary, they could modify it to fit. I ordered it, and it turns out that it bolted right up. I just unbolted the 3 Pt hitch specific parts from the 7500 and bolted on the part that mates with the 4 pt quick hitch.

I've been very happy with it. The subframe stays on the tractor all the time. Hooking up the backhoe is simple. It probably takes me only 5 minutes.

 

[walk4rams]

Can any body verify how good a woods subframe is that uses the top link of the 3 pt hitch in conjunction with the subframe vs other subframes? the head of the subframe is somewhat a a frame vs a square at the front

 

[kabong57]

I would guess that style depends on the Tractor. The Woods sub frame for my 1532 MF connects to the BH at 4 points. The lower 2 on the sub frame are open hook style that ridgid welded pins set in. The upper 2 points have double plates that sandwich the backhoe frame and are retained by 1" bolts that hold everything ridgid. By removing the lower pins on the 3pt lifting links, the lower arms can be lifted straight up and be held out of the way with a tarp strap and do not have to be removed.

 

[John_Mc]

I would guess that style depends on the Tractor. The Woods sub frame for my 1532 MF connects to the BH at 4 points. The lower 2 on the sub frame are open hook style that ridgid welded pins set in. The upper 2 points have double plates that sandwich the backhoe frame and are retained by 1" bolts that hold everything ridgid. By removing the lower pins on the 3pt lifting links, the lower arms can be lifted straight up and be held out of the way with a tarp strap and do not have to be removed.

That's the Woods 4 point quick hitch subframe I mentioned a couple of posts up. Their previous subframe sounded more like what the OP described in post #14. I believe that old style was removed from the tractor when not in use? The new 4 point one you describe makes for MUCH easier installation and removal of the backhoe. (and at least on my NH TC33D did not cost me much in ground clearance.)

 

[walk4rams]

Was not able to verify subframe by model # or serial number, woods says New holland 1520, TC-29D and TC 29DA all take different subframes. Potentially the TC 29 D and the TC 29 DA may sharesimilar subframes but not sure ,it's just a guess. Not into fabrication, have called several woods dealers, with limited success as its an older , Frusturating round peg syndrome !.

 

[walk4rams]

Hey John Mc,
Thanks for the info, after thinking it over I believe the subframe may be the older woods subframe that would make changing attchments harder. I know it has a top link attachment and a tapered frame as you move towards the loader. Per Woods, even the newer subframes come with a top frame brace. Probalby the only way to sort out is to do a comparison of the individual parts number to spot the differences between a olde and newer woods subframe or the TC29d vs a New Holland 1520. If some one a paper trai helping out l of the order things would be easier. Everybody that has helped out, including the seller have been great.

 

[kabong57]

Hey John Mc,
Thanks for the info, after thinking it over I believe the subframe may be the older woods subframe that would make changing attchments harder. I know it has a top link attachment and a tapered frame as you move towards the loader. Per Woods, even the newer subframes come with a top frame brace. Probalby the only way to sort out is to do a comparison of the individual parts number to spot the differences between a olde and newer woods subframe or the TC29d vs a New Holland 1520. If some one a paper trai helping out l of the order things would be easier. Everybody that has helped out, including the seller have been great.

I would suggest you contact Woods for an installation manual which includes a detailed parts manual. They sent me one as a PDF file . Didn't mind printing the pages I needed before ordering the sub frame. I then modified my old 750 backhoe from a 3pt. mount to fit the new style sub frame.