Wood Stove - Don't build this one

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Well the build is pretty much completed. A little sanding, painting and nice door handle and its done.

Have burned it 5 times about as hot as it can get. Metal has pretty much seated in, no more creaking or popping. Got all the leaks welded up and the door sealed.

Played all kinds of games with the air & pipe dampers. Could not get it to flash back. So that is not a problem.

You can have all the heat you could want out of it. If damped down correctly a 3 to 5 hour burn should work out. Maybe a little longer depending on how well you get it adjusted and the type of wood. Having a thermal mass of almost 200 pounds and with a good bed of coals, it should put out all night heat.

Would I build another one. Yes but a lot simpler with fewer parts. Having worked my way through this one, planning would be better as well.[/QUOTE]

Hopefully, your welding technique improves as well......

 

[Sutol]

Well the build is pretty much completed. A little sanding, painting and nice door handle and its done.

Have burned it 5 times about as hot as it can get. Metal has pretty much seated in, no more creaking or popping. Got all the leaks welded up and the door sealed.

Played all kinds of games with the air & pipe dampers. Could not get it to flash back. So that is not a problem.

You can have all the heat you could want out of it. If damped down correctly a 3 to 5 hour burn should work out. Maybe a little longer depending on how well you get it adjusted and the type of wood. Having a thermal mass of almost 200 pounds and with a good bed of coals, it should put out all night heat.

Would I build another one. Yes but a lot simpler with fewer parts. Having worked my way through this one, planning would be better as well.[/QUOTE]

Hopefully, your welding technique improves as well......

My welding is about as good as its goin to get

Cant be good at everythin but I'm tryin, bin practicing for years:ashamed:

My neighbour is a welder and puts me to shame, he makes it look so easy

 

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...Maybe the both of you need to graduate to a different process or different rod (if SMAW) is your go to process.

I'd suggest a gas shielded wire machine. Basically a glue gun for metal with the added benefit of asthetically pleasant welds....

The welds on the stove look like tooo little amperage, no wet out and poor pre-prep.

With SMAW, you allow the oxide flux coating to shield the inner core wire and the weld needs to flow 'wet out' to provide a good visual bead and penetration.

 

[crash325]

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Hopefully, your welding technique improves as well......[/QUOTE]

Don't claim to be a good welder. But most of my welds hold. Even on things that are under lots of strain, Log splitter, bridles for roller & sheep's foot, etc.

Big mistake on the stove was changing from AC to DC about 1/2 way through the build. Also trying different rod types. Since most of them are mostly to seal things up with very little strain on them, figured it was a good place to try different things. My eyes like the rest of me are getting old, can't see what I'm welding much of the time, so its mostly by feel & sound. Also ran out of 6011, my go to rod for most everything.

Yep was way to cold in some places, mostly when sticking something real thin to one that was thick. Got overly cautious, to cold, moved too fast.

With all of that said some of them are pretty darn good. Not up to pipe line standards, but no X-rays will be done :laughing:

Since all the welds held up without cracking or coming undone to a lot of heat and a lot of Hammer Adjustments, I'm Happy with them.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[crash325]

...Maybe the both of you need to graduate to a different process or different rod (if SMAW) is your go to process.

I'd suggest a gas shielded wire machine. Basically a glue gun for metal with the added benefit of asthetically pleasant welds.... If you are offering to buy or give me one of those welders I'll take it.

The welds on the stove look like tooo little amperage, no wet out and poor pre-prep. Since most every part was metal at hand some was not like new. Most was ground clean where it was to be welded.

With SMAW, you allow the oxide flux coating to shield the inner core wire and the weld needs to flow 'wet out' to provide a good visual bead and penetration. As mentioned earlier "Visual is a problem.

Maybe in my "Old Age" I will get better. :thumbsup::laughing:

 

[Sutol]

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Hopefully, your welding technique improves as well......

Don't claim to be a good welder. But most of my welds hold. Even on things that are under lots of strain, Log splitter, bridles for roller & sheep's foot, etc.

My eyes like the rest of me are getting old, can't see what I'm welding much of the time, so its mostly by feel & sound.

Since all the welds held up without cracking or coming undone to a lot of heat and a lot of Hammer Adjustments, I'm Happy with them.:thumbsup::thumbsup:[/QUOTE]

My welding has improved since I turned down the heat and spent a little more time with the weld.

My eyes too are terrible, I have to wear reading glasses and illuminate the area so as I can see what I'm doing, it does help get better looking welds but no stronger I suspect.

Some of my welds I wouldn't bet my life on but some dont matter that much, the ones that do matter are welded so that they are glowing when finished and are tested with a big persuader

The glass in my visor dosen't help as its covered in spatter from welding under the chassis on my very rusty pickup, must get a new visor, those self darkening ones are looking good and getting cheaper. I usually wait till someone gives me one

I use a small mig most of the time welding thin metal like the shield on the bottom of this exhaust, the exhaust was thickwall steel so easy to weld and make a good job but the black shield at the bottom and the raincap had to be done carefully so as not to blow holes in the thin metal,

Getting there though,

OOHHH and a picture of my central heating pipe that keeps me warm when I'm doin my rubbish welding

 

[crash325]

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My welding has improved since I turned down the heat and spent a little more time with the weld.

My eyes too are terrible, I have to wear reading glasses and illuminate the area so as I can see what I'm doing, it does help get better looking welds but no stronger I suspect.

Some of my welds I wouldn't bet my life on but some dont matter that much, the ones that do matter are welded so that they are glowing when finished and are tested with a big persuader

The glass in my visor dosen't help as its covered in spatter from welding under the chassis on my very rusty pickup, must get a new visor, those self darkening ones are looking good and getting cheaper. I usually wait till someone gives me one

I use a small mig most of the time welding thin metal like the shield on the bottom of this exhaust, the exhaust was thickwall steel so easy to weld and make a good job but the black shield at the bottom and the raincap had to be done carefully so as not to blow holes in the thin metal,

Getting there though,

OOHHH and a picture of my central heating pipe that keeps me warm when I'm doin my rubbish welding[/QUOTE]

Us old guys sure have fun. :thumbsup::laughing: & we get er done.

Love that long gear shitfter on you stove damper. :thumbsup:

 

[Sutol]

OOHHH and a picture of my central heating pipe that keeps me warm when I'm doin my rubbish welding

Us old guys sure have fun. :thumbsup::laughing: & we get er done.

Love that long gear shitfter on you stove damper. :thumbsup:[/QUOTE]

We do have some fun, we do some silly things like throwing old inflamables in to the fire just to watch the inferno, spose you're the same or is it just us

Gear shifter on damper was put on just to be different but it sure works and no burned fingers when adjusting it.

Next model will be better, was thinking of wrapping a water pipe around the cylinder to heat water for washing hands instead of the ex US army pan.

Water from a header tank will run down and around the stove on then back up to the header tank , should work, the heated water would rise into the header tank displacing the water back down to the stove and eventally all the water would be hot.

Thats the theory anyway, nothing complicated, just like it used to be in the house when we had a coal fire with a back boiler with a hot water tank upstairs.

Could have the header tank like a toilet cystern so as any water drawn off would be replaced then we could run a pipe to the sink and have hot water on tap.

I'm workin on it

 

[5030]

Don't claim to be a good welder. But most of my welds hold. Even on things that are under lots of strain, Log splitter, bridles for roller & sheep's foot, etc.

My eyes like the rest of me are getting old, can't see what I'm welding much of the time, so its mostly by feel & sound.

Since all the welds held up without cracking or coming undone to a lot of heat and a lot of Hammer Adjustments, I'm Happy with them.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

My welding has improved since I turned down the heat and spent a little more time with the weld.

My eyes too are terrible, I have to wear reading glasses and illuminate the area so as I can see what I'm doing, it does help get better looking welds but no stronger I suspect.

Some of my welds I wouldn't bet my life on but some dont matter that much, the ones that do matter are welded so that they are glowing when finished and are tested with a big persuader

The glass in my visor dosen't help as its covered in spatter from welding under the chassis on my very rusty pickup, must get a new visor, those self darkening ones are looking good and getting cheaper. I usually wait till someone gives me one

I use a small mig most of the time welding thin metal like the shield on the bottom of this exhaust, the exhaust was thickwall steel so easy to weld and make a good job but the black shield at the bottom and the raincap had to be done carefully so as not to blow holes in the thin metal,

Getting there though,

OOHHH and a picture of my central heating pipe that keeps me warm when I'm doin my rubbish welding[/QUOTE]

Don't ever tell your insurance carrier what lurks in your garage/shop. You'll get cancelled.....:laughing:

 

[Sutol]

Don't ever tell your insurance carrier what lurks in your garage/shop. You'll get cancelled.....:laughing:

What insurance carrier:laughing:

Hey , you know most things dont you,

Is this pan American military issue, I was told it was, its stainless steel