will i notice 5 hp?

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twoodard04

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I'm still looking and running numbers on machines to fit my needs. Right now the new mahindra 1500 series has me looking hard. Now there is a 33 HP and a 38 HP option on the same frame. Same loader same weight etc. The price is about 3000 more for the 38 HP. Question is will I need that extra or not. Needs for PTO equipment would/could be tiller and brush hog with slight ppossibility of a snow blower. This model has a mid PTO option as well as a 72" mmm. Considering that as well. Other tasks would be general loader work and snow removal by bucket/ and or blade on a 800' drive. So anyone see this as a requirement to get the extra hp? By the time I'm able to buy (wedding this year and house work- lots of house work) the price difference might not be a issue. I'ma buy it once type of person so iI know what way I'm leaning , but the info on this site is second to none. Let me know thanks
 
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On one hand, $600 per hp seems pretty high, doesn't it? On the other, maybe there are some other, un-mentioned improvements? Don't know about the 1500 series, but as they say, you can get the same job done, only a bit slower. 33 hp will burn less fuel, fwiw.
 
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Both tractors weigh around 3200#. The 33 will be adequate for anything you need to do. But I would opt for the 38. I run a 1720 NH. It weighs in at around 2800# and has 28 HP. Most manufacturers will have HP to weight ratios from 80# to 125# per HP of tractor weight. My NH is right at 100# per HP and to me that is a good match. I used to run a YM1700 Yanmar that was in the 1550# range with 17 HP at the PTO and 20 at the engine. It was real peppy for its size. It's your money. I've never know someone to complain about too much HP.
 
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If both tractor weigh the same, then the extra HP (if that is truly the only difference) is likely wasted money. Most CUT's run out of traction before running out of power. For PTO work, there might be times that you could use the extra 5 HP but for most work, you wont know the difference. That size can run a 6 foot bush hog with ease in either of the HP configurations. Likely the higher HP has a turbocharger on the same size engine to boost the HP. I prefer to stay away from turbos if possible as they are just another item to wear out.

For $3000 difference, I would for sure go with the smaller HP tractor. But you have to confirm that you are not getting other amenities on the larger HP tractor, like extra remote hydraulics, draft control with position control rather than just position control, telescoping lift arms, higher hydraulic pump flow, etc. These can add thousands to the price of a tractor.
 
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Any time you're in doubt, just get a reel push mower and cut some grass. Then get a reel mower with a 5hp engine on it. It'll pull you smartly while you try to keep up with it while its cutting grass. :)
 
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Are you going to get hydrostat or gear drive? The hydrostat will eat some of the hp especially on the pto. If hydrostat is what you are after check the spec on the hydro relief settings for each. if it is the same most likely you will only benefit from the extra hp at the pto. I have 27 hp and a heavy tractor it does all I ask but when cutting tall grass or running a chipper I would not complain about more hp. But I don't think I would pay 3 grand to get it.
 
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Yes, at that HP range, another 5hp is HUGE!!!!! Especially if you are going to get a 6ft rotary cutter. That sized cutter is right at the edge of being too big for a 33hp tractor and just about perfect for 38hp. I have a 35 hp tractor and really wish I had 5 more hp!!!!

I doubt you will notice the difference in fuel consumption. I doubt there is anything that either one isn't capable of doing, but the more powerful one is going to be able to do it faster and easier. If you tend to push your equipment and plan on working it hard, then you really want the most HP you can afford.

Eddie
 
   / will i notice 5 hp? #9  
Get the extra 5 HP. You can run better PTO equipment and the resale is better. YOu can also runn a slightly lower RPM's too in doing some work.
 
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Yes, 5 HP will be noticed.
 

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