Wild Ride

   / Wild Ride #11  
Bird, it was a 5 ft. tiller and it will move the tractor (the 2710) a small amount on level ground. I guess I should say it depends on how hard the dirt is, but it don't matter a lick what the dirt is like if you are on a down hill slope. I laugh when I think about it now but when it happened is when I decided to start wearing the seat belt all the time.
 
   / Wild Ride #12  
Bird, Do you live where they are getting all the rain down there in Texas? I thought I remembered you saying a while back that it had been pretty dry in your part of the country. glen
 
   / Wild Ride #13  
Yeah, glen, I got 3" of rain last Sunday (grass was thick and tall when I mowed the yard Thursday right after we got another .03" that morning), then I got another .65" today. I've already gotten more rain in 2000 than I did for the entire calendar year of 1999. So things are in pretty good shape in my neighborhood right now, if it just doesn't stop for the rest of the summer like it did last year. This Spring the creek at the bottom of the hill where I usually go crappie fishing was dried up completely. And now the road is barricaded because it's under water for about a hundred yards. Of course, that's not a problem because there's only one house on the other side of the creek and they can get in and out from the other side; they just have a little longer drive on a narrow dirt road.

And a tiller 20" wider than mine would give you a little more propulsion, especially on hard ground. I'm usually tilling on soft ground that's been cultivated regularly.

Bird
 
   / Wild Ride #14  
Bird, does your tiller "ride" inside your tires and is that a problem for tilling? We have been pretty dry up here which is good for the sprinkler system business but bad when I try to pull pipe underground with the vibratory plow.
 
   / Wild Ride #15  
Glen, I guess when you talk about the tiller riding inside the tires, you're talking about it not being wide enough to cover my tracks. I bought the 40" tiller when I had a B7100 that was 40" wide, so it worked great. Now with the B2710, I have the tiller offset to the right so it covers the tracks on that side. I tried it centered and it's not too bad, but it leaves half the track on each side that way. I would rather have a wider tiller, but just don't feel that I can afford it right now.

Bird
 
   / Wild Ride #16  
Engaging the rear differential lock while a wheel is spinning is a good way to break it completely and have a big repair bill not covered by warranty.

I can get maximum traction from my M6800S 4WD by putting it in 4WD and engaging both front and rear differential locks. That effectively locks all 4 wheels together. The lock pedal is on the right and the brake pedal is on the right. Would be very difficult to use both.

If you are going up or down a slope that the braking of the tractor is the lowest gear (or range for hydro) doesn't provide adequate holding power, you are on too steep of a slope and operating in a very dangerous position. Brakes will work IF the rear wheels are on the ground in either 2WD or 4WD. Put the loader on the ground and any implement on the ground and slowly get off that slope. Once the tractor starts gaining speed, you are already past the point of no return and steering is about all that is left.
 
   / Wild Ride #17  
Wen.

Well steering isn't the only thing left, then comes praying.
 
   / Wild Ride #19  
Wen,
I guess I'll have to question the concept of "Engaging the rear differential lock while a wheel is spinning is a good way to break it completely".

The only condition that my B2150 manual warns of is "Never apply the differential lock when traveling at high speeds. Doing so could cause loss of steering control."

Even if you have one wheel spinning, engaging the differential lock would add in the other wheel (which should be slow moving or stationairy).

While the tractor is seemingly stuck with one front & one rear wheel spinning (such as moving dirt with a yard box) I have routinely engaged the differential lock and continued my forward progress. I fail to see the danger to equipment. Am I missing something?
 
   / Wild Ride #20  
There is no such thing as adding in the other wheel when one is spinning much faster. It would not be hard on the differential to engage it while moving if the relative motion between the rear tires is small, though. The reason you have trouble steering is that the rear wheels will fight the steering correction unless you are on soft ground which is the ONLY time you should be using the differential lock anyway.

Whether you cause a problem pulling a box blade full of dirt depends on the throttle position. If you let off of the throttle just before you push the differential lock, the wheel speeds immediately equalize. If you stay on the throttle and one wheel is spinning much faster than the other one, you are taking a lot of risk to your equipment!

When you have one wheel spinning at high speed and the other one barely turning, the difference in the wheel speed is made up by the differential spinning the gears at very high speed. Pushing the differential lock engages a pawl that locks the differential by stopping the spinning gears. When you do that fast enough the parts for the lock break. I know a John Deere that used to have a differential lock and doesn't now and probably won't because the parts are high. There is no clutch in the differential lock to absorb the shock. It is meant to be engaged at slow speeds or nearly stopped. A posi-trac rear axle in a truck or car has clutches to perform this function, but a tractor does not.
 

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