Widening stance???

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roth2000

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Kioti ck3510se HC Kioti sb2064 snowblower, 6' King Kutter brush mower, 6' box blade, tiller
Can someone confirm or deny if I am able to widen the stance of the wheels on my ck3510sehc. I have not been able to find anything in the manual about it but I've believe I've heard that it's possible. I have industrial tires if that makes a difference.
 
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Roth - we need pics of the front and rear WHEELS. We will then be able to see if the centers can be installed on rims in different positions.

This is a page from my Op Manual. Gives you an idea of the multiple possibilities - if you have adjustable wheels.

Hmm - "attached thumbnails" - - use if you are located in the Southern Hemisphere.


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Lots of CK owner's on TBN. What is current tread width !?? Wheel spacers are an option if current width is at max.
 
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On the older CK series (not the xx10) - the only wheels that were adjustable were the ones that came with Ag tires. Turf & Industrial were one piece wheels therefore not adjustable. I do not know for a fact, but have my doubt this changed in the CKxx10 series.

On a positive note - the outer edge to edge wheel width for industrial tires was pretty wide to begin with.

If you indeed do not have adjustable wheels then adding wheel spacers will be your only option.

I am curious if you're widening for a clearance issue or a stability issue (and if the latter did you get the tires fluid filled already) ?
 
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Thanks for the replies. My tractor is out at my other property at the moment so I can't get any pics or measurements and as far as I can tell the tires are not filled, though I do plan to get them done. I was just hoping someone could give me a definitive answer as my other place is very hilly and I'd like go get all the stability I can.
 
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Well - when you get back out to your tractor - take a look at the wheels. Its easy to see if they are a welded solid rim wheel or a multi-part wheel.

If they are solid rim then you will need spacers - if multi-part then you need to make adjustments to the width you want.
 
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Thanks for the replies. My tractor is out at my other property at the moment so I can't get any pics or measurements and as far as I can tell the tires are not filled, though I do plan to get them done. I was just hoping someone could give me a definitive answer as my other place is very hilly and I'd like go get all the stability I can.

Getting the tires filled will definitely help - both with stability & with ground engaging work like the Box Blade & Tiller you list.

I cheated and searched your posts and I saw that this is your first tractor - when dealing with hills, grades, slopes, etc the learning curve is steep (sorry I couldn't resist the pun) but it's also very intolerant of mistakes.

As a general rule of thumb going down slope is better than going up, and going across is always the last choice.
Carry the loader and rear implements as low as reasonably possible to keep your center of gravity low - always not just on slopes.

The operator seat on these tractors sits pretty far up (imagine standing behind the tractor and drawing a line from rear wheel to rear wheel directly thru the seat bottom, then see how far that line is up above the center line of the axle and how far off the ground). Being that far "up" makes every side tilt feel steeper than it really is because the higher you are above the axle, the farther you "shift" or tilt when the axle isn't level.

Our CK35 and 8N Ford have the same basic wheel base and track width and the same size rear tire but the operators seat on the 8N sits much farther down between the wheels closer to the axle so riding both tractors across the same slope feels noticeably different.

Although I would suggest & urge you to do this all the time, I know how complacency & human nature are and eventually we get out of good habits thru comfort, BUT - till you get to know the tractor and the ground you're working keep your ROPS up and your seat belt on!!

Other than that, just stay safe and enjoy.
 
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As far as I know the only adjustable width wheels come with the standard ag tires. My property is nothing BUT hills... 17% grade all over the place, the best I can do on hills is about a 30 degree angle off center of straight up and down. Even my "push" mower is 4 wheel drive.
 
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Thanks again for the tips and no need to worry about keeping the ROPS it's always up since it has a cab, but I imagine that moves my center of gravity a little higher than a non cabbed model. I'll look at the wheels a little more closely next time I'm there.
 
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Thanks again for the tips and no need to worry about keeping the ROPS it's always up since it has a cab, but I imagine that moves my center of gravity a little higher than a non cabbed model. I'll look at the wheels a little more closely next time I'm there.

Oops I missed the "C" in the model - my bad. lol

You are correct that the CG will be higher but I don't recall if anyone has ever discussed just how much.
 

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