Why ride street bikes?

   / Why ride street bikes? #181  
The ground breaking study in 1981 by Doctor Hurt (real name!) remains the primary guideline for deciding how to mitigate risk.

List of findings in the Hurt Report - Wikipedia

Their have been several European studies and a New Zealand study that confirm most or all of that report.

All of my friends wear full face helmets. Most wear safety gear all the time, and high visibility jackets or vests and helmets.

A lot of my friends who race and an increasing number who ride street are wearing airbag vests.
 
   / Why ride street bikes? #182  
This is a if you gotta ask, you aint ever gonna know Question, isnt it? You are free to decide to ride or not, and no one will argue the low state of driver skill in the US.

Because iits fun, because it teaches skills and responsibilities, because its an exciting family sport in a nation where 70% of Americans are overweight or obese and most die from cancer or heart disease. Because with the appropriate riding gear and rider training, the risk is much lower than the overall death rate for motorcyclists, most of whom do not have any rider training, are not wearing a helmet, and half of whom are impaired.

My wife got her motorcycle license two years ago, my 18yo daughter last summer. 16yo daughter will be up next summer, 15yo son 2020.

Enjoy the family rides..... I know you have/will :thumbsup:

Rgds, D.
 
   / Why ride street bikes? #183  
The ground breaking study in 1981 by Doctor Hurt (real name!) remains the primary guideline for deciding how to mitigate risk.

List of findings in the Hurt Report - Wikipedia

Their have been several European studies and a New Zealand study that confirm most or all of that report.

All of my friends wear full face helmets. Most wear safety gear all the time, and high visibility jackets or vests and helmets.

A lot of my friends who race and an increasing number who ride street are wearing airbag vests.

After hearing my brother's description of the cycle rider who hit the asphalt face first, I can understand why.
 
   / Why ride street bikes? #184  
After hearing my brother's description of the cycle rider who hit the asphalt face first, I can understand why.
Nobody had to tell me twice.

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You’d be amazed at how much yakking I get from “Lifestyle” riders about wearing gear. My response is, “I’d already be dead.”

Got hit from the side by a car in a construction zone going 40mph in 2007. The Honda in the pic came racing up the closing lane, then swerved in when he saw the signal and couldn’t stop. The front of his car clipped the rear of my bike and knocked me over.

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Five state troopers showed up because they could not believe I wasn’t badly injured or killed.

Rode back to work. Consider it a failure on my part to not be aware. This was a tough one as there was an entrance ramp so cars were converging into the lanes from both sides.
 
   / Why ride street bikes? #185  
I knew my friend was in for a serious time when on the day of and shortly after his motorcycle accident. (10 wheel truck turned across his path, with the rider having the right of way) a highway patrolman answered his cell phone. He said "I bet you wanted to talk to xxxx" I said yes, and who are you? He advised he was MSHP, and my friend was just about to "dust off" on a life flight to Springfield Mo and a hospital. He was happy to report he was still alive, but had some serious injuries. He is still recovering, and making progress. The Harley has went its last mile.
 
   / Why ride street bikes? #187  
Riding 51 years and counting. Over 700,000 miles now with no injuries. If I get creamed tomorrow, which I recognize could happen, it will have been worth it. I will also have lived three times longer than my only son who was killed in a car accident at age 23. I care more about the life in my years than about the years in my life. Feel free to choose differently as suits you.

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   / Why ride street bikes? #188  
Riding 51 years and counting. Over 700,000 miles now with no injuries. If I get creamed tomorrow, which I recognize could happen, it will have been worth it. I will also have lived three times longer than my only son who was killed in a car accident at age 23. I care more about the life in my years than about the years in my life. Feel free to choose differently as suits you.

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riders will ride, the naysayers can walk or stay home, not going to:mur:
 
   / Why ride street bikes? #189  
I knew my friend was in for a serious time when on the day of and shortly after his motorcycle accident. (10 wheel truck turned across his path, with the rider having the right of way) a highway patrolman answered his cell phone. He said "I bet you wanted to talk to xxxx" I said yes, and who are you? He advised he was MSHP, and my friend was just about to "dust off" on a life flight to Springfield Mo and a hospital. He was happy to report he was still alive, but had some serious injuries. He is still recovering, and making progress. The Harley has went its last mile.
Sorry to hear.

Left turners account for the majority (over half!) of multi-vehicle motorcycle accidents, as reported in the Hurt Report and other studies.

The problem is common enough that the Brits have a name for it: SMIDSY, or "Sorry Mate, I Didn't See You." The reasons - and the countermeasures - are well understood.

It's just that many riders don't bother to educate themselves. If you are a rider, watch this video. If the background behind the driver's head is not moving, you are not moving relative to the driver's field of vision, and he is unlikely to see you. I discovered the anti-SMIDSY maneuver by accident in 1985 but didn't understand why it worked until I saw this video.

 
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   / Why ride street bikes? #190  
Riding 51 years and counting. Over 700,000 miles now with no injuries. If I get creamed tomorrow, which I recognize could happen, it will have been worth it. I will also have lived three times longer than my only son who was killed in a car accident at age 23. I care more about the life in my years than about the years in my life. Feel free to choose differently as suits you.
My project bike.

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   / Why ride street bikes? #192  
Well, that pretty much explains the reason for my near miss that I described earlier. My little car was a '70 Nova, and dark green. He probably didn't see me either.
 
   / Why ride street bikes? #193  
Think I'll just stick with my headlight modulator, if I start weaving back and forth at the speeds that I'm usually moving it's not gonna be the other cars that I'll need to worry about. :eek:
 
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Guys...

Don't ask me why "if you need to ask I'm asking why you ride, you don't need bother asking..."

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One of the few pics of me doing what I loved to do. That was a creek, running higher than it ever had than a DNR had ever seen in Idaho (or so he told us).

I loved speed and "risking it". Wish I had a pic of me over 500' high on a rock with a rope. Riding a bike for the most part is for ******* if the need is for speed (130MPH is no big deal IMB).

My point is I could not control the idiots on the road driving cars when I loved to bike, but when I did anything else, I didn't have to worry about idiots other but for myself.

Every once in a while I want to get back on a bike, then after the last funeral I worked for a friend, it reminded me of why I stopped biking.

I will perhaps enduro ride after we retire, and perhaps take that same bike on the road back to my home, but I don't think I'll ever road bike again.

To each their own.
 
   / Why ride street bikes? #197  
Guys...

Don't ask me why "if you need to ask I'm asking why you ride, you don't need bother asking..."

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One of the few pics of me doing what I loved to do. That was a creek, running higher than it ever had than a DNR had ever seen in Idaho (or so he told us).

I loved speed and "risking it". Wish I had a pic of me over 500' high on a rock with a rope. Riding a bike for the most part is for ******* if the need is for speed (130MPH is no big deal IMB).

My point is I could not control the idiots on the road driving cars when I loved to bike, but when I did anything else, I didn't have to worry about idiots other but for myself.

Every once in a while I want to get back on a bike, then after the last funeral I worked for a friend, it reminded me of why I stopped biking.

I will perhaps enduro ride after we retire, and perhaps take that same bike on the road back to my home, but I don't think I'll ever road bike again.

To each their own.

I quit working a whitewater rescue job because I no longer trusted the people I worked with to get me out of a predicament. ;)
 
   / Why ride street bikes? #199  
OMG! That could be it! Except mine was six cylinder, standard shift...and it had the rear end hit so hard that the insurance totaled it.

I had a '62, 70, 71 four door, 72.

All had 6's.

The 62 was a 194 with a power glide.
The 71 had a 250 with a power glide.
The 72 had a 250 with a 350 auto.

But the 70 was my baby.
It had a manual three-on-the-tree with a 230L6. I got it from my dad around 1978 with 140,000 on it. It was worn out. SOooooo..... :laughing:

I took the engine to a place called Shaker Racing, and had it bored out .60 over, and align bored, had the crank polished and whatever they did to it, had the head redone, ported it, etc.... basically got it all back in boxes and put it back together myself the summer between my junior and senior years in high school. Got some stupid radical cam from Isky. Headers and a 4 barrel intake from Clifford's. And a Holley 450 carb.

When I got it all together, that little car would do 114. I blew up the tranny doing burnouts in reverse, so I got a 4spd from a junkyard and cut a hole in the floor for the shifter. For some reason, I lost about 15MPH off the top end when the 4 speed went in, which I don't understand, as I think they all had 1:1 final drive. Maybe I changed the rear end ratio at the same time and forgot? I don't know. Anyhow, the top end dropped down to about 99mph, but man, it got there fast! It would chirp the tires in all 4 gears.

The neat thing about the 230 was it had the same bore as the 250 and the small block V8's, but it had a much shorter stroke, so you could spin it at higher RPMs. I could get 6800rpms out of it, but if you went more than about 1/4 mile, you'd pump the oil out of the lifters! :laughing: It was a great 1/8 mile car. A real good stop-light-to-stoplight pest to larger engined cars. ;)

Sadly, the body rusted out so badly, that around 1985 my mom and I walked up to it and pulled the rear bumper off with our hands. :laughing:

I cut it up with a torch, and we put most of that car out with the trash over several weeks.

However, I kept the engine and put it in a 1971 Toyota Landcruiser FJ40 with a bolt in small block V8 kit. So it lived on. I still have it in a storage shed for a future project. And I still have the hood from the 70 Nova, too, as a keepsake from the first car I ever drove.
 
   / Why ride street bikes? #200  
Well, that pretty much explains the reason for my near miss that I described earlier. My little car was a '70 Nova, and dark green. He probably didn't see me either.
That explains why the guy who hit my car in the LF tire back in Jan didn't see me, I had a dark blue car. My shoulder is still not right from that...

Aaron Z
 

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