Why left and right brakes?

[Slowpoke Slim]

Hmm, seems strange to me they'd go to all the trouble to change the location, but yeah, you'd think they'd automatically put it on the left side for an HST trans tractor. I don't think I climbed onto a non-cab model to even look at it (had my mind made up on the cab).

 

[boggen]

ever backup a pickup truck. and your off like 1" from the ball to trailer hookup. so you pull ahead a few extra feet and crank the front wheels back and forth. as you reverse.

granted tractor you have good visibility for 3pt hitch hookup. you still need to be aligned and more so darn near straight with the implement, in order to hook up both lower lift arms, plus top link.

non of that coming slightly or more at an angle to hookup to a trailer with a ball.

kick the split brakes and crank that rear end over, letting that front come around to align you up with the 3pt hitch.

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gotta love mowing around trees. more so smaller younger trees. and you due 4 plus circles around it trying to mow 4 sides down on it. slow it down some, hit the split brakes, and crank the wheels and ready to go with hopefully single circle around it. with very little that needs to be trimmed with a weed whacker.

mowing and all the various turns, from long U shapes, to figure 8's, to how ever sharp you turn 90's and not mowing down a partial side till ya finally get turned. lock one tire up and spin it around and keep on going. some areas around this farm. you turn more than you actually cut....

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FEL. just way to easy to put FEL on ground and loose all pressure on front tires to point front tires come off ground. nothing to keep you going in correct direction without split brakes.

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snow plowing / snow blowing / rear blade / or like on driveways, and you are not wanting to get off driveway into grass, or you end up tearing up the grass. i am no about to forward, backward, forward,backward and crank front wheels each direction 4 to 8 plus times to get turned around.

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FEL with a bucket hooks, and you got something chained/strapped to bucket trying to load a bed of truck from the side. and you got just a tinyness of a rut, even a slight hump. i have worked the split brakes, in order not to run into side of truck.

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most noticeable for me, is getting my rear unstuck. be it mud, ice, snow, hill, creak / waterway. i dis-like seeing black skid marks from tires melting as they spin without traction.

 

[Alesandro]

boggen:

Thank you for the examples.

 

[joeu235]

A couple years ago I was pulling a 32 foot flat bed with a tractor. The trailer was full of people who had just finished tubing a local river. The tractor started sliding down river bank and I was very lucky that I had the brakes decoupled.

 

[kgw51gmc]

Not only for skid steering, which is awesome, it's also so when you are going through ice, snow, mud, up hill etc and one wheel starts spinning you hit the brake on the spinning wheel, then the non-spinning wheel starts pulling. It's amazing, you are your own traction control, you are the computer.

 

[Alesandro]

Man you guys kick ***!! I was moving dirt today and I have to drive forward from where I dug dirt out of. So my lil machine gets a lil wobbly and stops going forward. My diff lock works but I try not to use it as I'm working a small 20'x20' little play area. So instead of going and reverse and trying a different angle, I unlocked my brake peddals and pushed on the side that was spinning, took me forward right out of the hole I was in. I'm already starting to get used to it backing up and making smaller turns.

THANKS FOR THE HELP GUYS!

 

[stlbill]

Because you are using individual brakes with throttle applied does it cause excess wear on brake friction surfaces (e.g. "lining", "pads")? For all of the reasons mentioned herein it seems like it would more efficient to have individual throttles compared to individual brakes.

I believe I have seen some big boy earth moving machines that turn one track forward while turning the other in reverse as opposed to only moving one side in a single direction.

 

[k0ua]

Because you are using individual brakes with throttle applied does it cause excess wheel on brake friction sufaces (e.g. "lining", "pads")? For all of the reasons mentioned herein it seems like it would more efficient to have individual throttles compared to individual brakes.

I believe I have seen some big boy earth moving machines that turn one track forward while turning the other in reverse as opposed to only moving one side in a single direction.

The brake surfaces are bathed in the hydraulic fluid so they stay pretty cool. And since they are designed as "turning brakes" I would think they would have a pretty long life. Does it eventually cause some wear? Well, everything wears out eventually. But I don't have any qualms about using them. Wouldn't you need 2 engines and two drivelines to have individual throttles ? Multi engined boats and multi engined aircraft of course have them and they can be used for steering. But I haven't seen much of that on a CUT tractor.

 

[Alesandro]

Because you are using individual brakes with throttle applied does it cause excess wear on brake friction surfaces (e.g. "lining", "pads")?

I don't think so, since it's an open diff when I apply the brake (what ever side it may be at that time) I don't think there's much force from the motor on the side being held.

Anyone else?

 

[Carleola]

I have a 2016 Kubota B335o Cab. It has brakes and Diff-lock on the LHS.