Who still drives a stick in 2025?

   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #101  
So presently my wife and I both drive manuals. We both prefer them. My wife would not even concider an automatic when looking for a replacement car. She's 67 by the way.

2 of my 3 men drive manuals. I've taught a few ladies how to drive manuals. A dodge Cummins works great for teaching as you don't have to be concerned with the throttle. Just learn to manage the clutch and the throttle operation comes naturally.

Some fun notes. I've converted several vehicle to manuals. Mostly because a manual has never left me stuck on the side of the road. I've always been able to get home. My 2001 TDI gained about 10 mpg with the manual and a lot more fun to drive. My 1990 Cummins gained about 6 mpg and a pile more reliability when swapped. At one time this winter we had 8 Jetta's, a Polo, a Rabbit and an Audi on the yard. Out of the 11 only 2 were automatics.

I suppose at some point in time we will own an automatic transmission vehicle but right now at 68 I don't feel like I'm old enough.
Honda's early automatics sucked compared to the 5 speeds. I had several 5 speed Honda Accord LX's and Civics, but just 2 autos. The 1980 Accord LX auto would run down the hiway at well over 3000 RPM if you tried to cruise at 70. Could pull several more MPG out of the manually shifted Honda's
Like you, For whatever reason my 6 speed manual 3500 Ram gets considerably better MPG than the wife's very similar auto version -both with 5.9 Cummins power.

I do find the autos much easier to drive, and holding the clutch in at say road construction or a Long light can get old on the NV 5600 or the M-22's 3800lb clutch. That said the EV is simplest of all. 0-155 in first :) not that I would test it.
 
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   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #102  
Clutch?
Shift fork?
Output shaft?

Those all can break and leave you along the side of the road.
Yes, things can break in manuals, but I've driven several hundreds of miles with clutches that didn't work, and some other transmission ailments. As have others according to earlier posts.

But the one time a transmission failed to get me home it was an automatic. Specifically, broken welds on a torque converter.
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #103  
I do find the autos much easier to drive, and holding the clutch in at say road construction or a Long light can get old on the NV 5600.

If it looks like a longish wait at road work, I shut the engine off.

Wouldn't even dream about keeping the clutch pedal depressed if it was a manual. Changing throw out bearings isn't hard, but it's not particularly fun, either.
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #104  
If it looks like a longish wait at road work, I shut the engine off.

Wouldn't even dream about keeping the clutch pedal depressed if it was a manual. Changing throw out bearings isn't hard, but it's not particularly fun, either.
Well on the TA it was actually driving it in a slow moving Parade every year that made me do the left foot workout.

On the RAM with NV 5600, it started having a slight drag problem with taking it out of gear and not wanting to go back in sometimes, thinking a slightly warped pressure plate or maybe a dragging pilot bearing. So until I take some time and just put a new disc pressure plate throw out and pilot bearing that is how I do it.

If I was ever to run a truck plowing again I agree with Hay Dude. I have run both and will take the auto any day every day.

A person is a lot less worn out at the end of a long plow day using an automatic. jmo.

As far as killing them, I managed to mis shift a 4 speed in a Mercedes 230 SL Convert. and broke a gear.

Bounced off the rev limiter in the TA before shifting out of first and broke a tooth off 1st on the Cluster gear. Have had at least 4 T-400 autos wear out the direct drive clutch and had to have them rebuilt. Hard on rear axles as well and also broke a driveline in half on a 67 GTO taking the rear axle pinion with it. I am reformed now.
 
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   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #105  
Learned and took my drivers test on a standard. Drove many throughout the years. Most fun was the factory Hurst 4 speed in my 79 Firebird that had the built 400.

Current truck is auto, don't think they make a manual Colorado any more. Traffic is terrible around here anyway.. commute would be terrible.

I guess I can get my fix on the Guzzi.
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #106  
Learned and took my drivers test on a standard. Drove many throughout the years. Most fun was the factory Hurst 4 speed in my 79 Firebird that had the built 400.

Current truck is auto, don't think they make a manual Colorado any more. Traffic is terrible around here anyway.. commute would be terrible.

I guess I can get my fix on the Guzzi.
My all time favorite shifter- still attached to the same close ratio M-22 that I once broke the cluster gear on.
Car was in need of a good clean for sure.
 

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   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #107  
Honda's early automatics sucked compared to the 5 speeds. I had several 5 speed Honda Accord LX's and Civics, but just 2 autos. The 1980 Accord LX auto would run down the hiway at well over 3000 RPM if you tried to cruise at 70. Could pull several more MPG out of the manually shifted Honda's
Like you, For whatever reason my 6 speed manual 3500 Ram gets considerably better MPG than the wife's very similar auto version -both with 5.9 Cummins power.

I do find the autos much easier to drive, and holding the clutch in at say road construction or a Long light can get old on the NV 5600 or the M-22's 3800lb clutch. That said the EV is simplest of all. 0-155 in first :) not that I would test it.

I keep emphasizing modern automatics. Like less than 10 years old, unless it's an Allison.
Ford and Dodge continued to try to beef up 4/5 speed car automatics, which were pretty bad (E4OD, 4R100, etc)
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #108  
Driving an Automatic Stick Shift VW bug for the first time (a 3-speed trans witha torque converter and electrically activated (via stick shift position) clutch, so no third pedal. Still had a stick on the floor, but very wide range in speed per gear. I'm doing about 20mph in it's first gear, time to shift it to the next gear. It had a really wide brake pedal. You can guess what happened next - as I go to make the shift my left foot stomps the pedal to the floor. The extra wide brake pedal that is... My passenger hit their head on the windshield. As Gomer Pyle says, surprise, surprise, surprise!
I got in the habit of using my left foot for braking for that very reason back in the days when I (mostly) drove stick shift vehicles. Too much instinctively bringing down my left foot as I neared a stop!
Who would want to? Three on the tree was a pretty anemic transmission back in the 70s. I replaced my F-100 three on the tree with a floor shift 4 speed after about a year.
Not to mention the linkages were always kind of clunky and would occasionally jam up as a vehicle got older. Lots of floor shift kits were sold for that reason.
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #109  
My Western Star long hood conventional would be lost without an 18 speed Roadranger and so would I. Always been a Star fan as they are all I drove for the company I retired from, drove them for over 26 years and 99% of them were big Cats. A couple 13's and the rest 18's All on air and all with double bunks. I really liked the 97 Star I drove with the 'Vestibule' sleeper in it. Sort of a 'private entrance' to the sleeper and a great closet to keep work clothes in. We all drove large cars that never went anywhere actually. We we all home almost every night and if for some odd reason we did get hung out, the company covered us staying in a Holiday Inn and paid our dinner and breakfast as well.

I only ran Northern Ohio and lower Michigan and rarely a trip to Gary, Indiana to pick up a permit load of master coils.

The reason why the owner of the company bought large car Stars was for eventual resale. In fact they always had a waiting list of drivers who wanted to buy them and they came out of fleet at 750L miles, sometimes less. When I retired I bought the tractor I was driving so it retired along with me and they gave me a fantastic deal on it with the stipulation that if needed, I would pull their Talbert detachable when big stuff needed moved. I complied with that, no issue because it not only paid well but they got all the permits as well. I moved many large, heavy and od machinery pieces for them as they were in the steel processing business and that entails large process machinery.

I remember one time I moved an overwidth machine base from Gibraltar, Michigan to Toledo, Ohio and the routing was down M125, smack through downtown Monroe, Michigan and I hit it at rush hour and the road was 2 lane and I took up every bit of the south side plus the berm and I pizzed off a lot of drivers that day. Glad I had a Michigan State Police escort on my rear end. If I remember, I was 14-6 feet wide. Not high but real heavy as well. Had the flip axle down and all lit up and all the signage and flags in place. Took a pair of mobile cranes to lift it off. I hauled many oversized in width and height pieces for them and then they divested themselves of the trucking company and it was no more, but I still own the Star and a Timpte 42 foot hopper bottom trailer. Complete OO package inside and a sleeper I never slept in. twin 1220 gallon polished tanks, all polished aluminum wheels, inners and outers, diamond tufted interior, wood laminate dash, Newway air ride, 44K rears, every factory option available. It's bright red metallic with black interior. Air ride seats on both sides too. 255" wheelbase and a football stadium sized turning radius.

Quite a unit that I only use for hauling local grain now. I should probably sell it.
That's a lot of fuel to be lugging around.
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #110  
I learned to drive by holding the reins in both hands. Two mules pulling a big 'ol farm wagon. As I drove by the workers would throw on the bales. One on the wagon to straighten everything out.

My first "stick shift" a Massey that replaced the mules.
 

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