The Pinto comment is not completely accurate, you see, many people, like me when I was young and needed a "new" car for school bought "Amurican" Pintos and Vegas--those two vehicles more than any other similar types are the reason Toyota is now the number 3 auto manufacturer in this country. That series of crapmobiles lost most of an entire generation from GM and Ford and to Toyota/Honda. These people, like me, would never even consider a domestic car from GM or Ford--in fact--to me they are foreign (to me). Why would I buy their stuff when Toyota, Honda etc have served us so well? This thinking, unfortuantely, carries over into most other consumer spending also which includes tractors. I fear your analysis is incorrect, sales volume does reflect customer satisfaction--if only indirectly. Rationalizing something is easy to do when the facts don't agree with one's preconcieved notions. Fortunately for us tractor folks JohnDeere seems to have more honor in their pinky finger than GM could have ever had in it's entireity. Why buying a Green Japanese tractor is better than buying an Orange one though does elude me. I have noticed younger people are not nearly so anti GM (and by association other American brands) as was my generation. Yeah, I know there is the Chebby crowd etc even among those who came up in my time but they are fewer and farther between than in generations before when everyone had a Oldsmobile or Ford and a JohnDeere tractor even. Hell, look here, I am still trying to come to grips with my wifes new Jeep Liberty that she bought. It is like haveing some kinda strange alien device in my garage. I just look at it and try to figure what was that woman thinking but then I drive in it --twice in more than a year--and realize it is not such a bad car--it has only refused to start 3 times, needed a new battery once, an alternator and belt and it sounds funny--kinda like blaaaaaaaaaaaaaa---blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa--blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa when you rev the engine such as it is. Was at the Toyota web site--the new FourRunner if she could have waited would have been my choice. J