Which is better for the long run.

[m1garand762]

Im considering an l3901, a worknmaster 40 and a 3039r. The kubota is the only machine that is self powered and naturally aspirated. I haven't heard too much positive on the turbos on the Deere and the New Holland. Dose anyone have any input. It will be used hard not a barn queen

 

[Steppenwolfe]

I have the smaller L3301. Great little tractor with quite a bit of guts. I got the gear drive for the extra HP. Very happy with mine.

 

[rademamj1]

Personally, I like the L3901 of that group and its a tough tractor. Curious, why do you believe that tractor turbos are not reliable?

 

[Roadworthy]

I have no experience with any of the three. I am a firm believer that simpler is better, though.

 

[oosik]

I will take exception to the Op's statement on turbos. I can't remember a thread here on TBN regarding problems with turbo's on any brand tractor.

And one of the MAJOR factors regarding tractor longevity - the quality of the maintenance done on the tractor.

 

[jaydee325]

Just Google "when were turbo chargers first used on diesel engines". You will find that turbos have been used for almost a century. It is not a new or fragile technology.:2cents:

 

[Carl_NH]

JD has a Yanmar engine and Workmaster is the LS - all very good machines, but if you want a true ALL OEM machine, then the Kubota is the choice.

If you own a Kubota now why change, what are your use cases - what do you want to do? Regarding your comment "not a barn queen, it will be used hard" they all will work hard, as long as you in return take care of the machine - it goes both ways - you take care of it and it takes care of you.

 

[MickeyDBC]

Of those three I would go with the Kubota, but turbos are fine if you take care of them. If you have been running the tractor hard, let it idle for a couple of minutes before you shut it down and make sure you keep up with oil changes and use good oil.

 

[m1garand762]

Actuall in the new holland section rhere are some and they all relate to cold weather and failure along with the egr

I will take exception to the Op's statement on turbos. I can't remember a thread here on TBN regarding problems with turbo's on any brand tractor.

And one of the MAJOR factors regarding tractor longevity - the quality of the maintenance done on the tractor.

 

[bullbreaker]

Another vote for the L3901 . If the polling stations still open .

 

[Jchonline]

Go deere or Kubota. Workmasters is a repainted machine manufactured by LS. If you like the workmaster that much I would look at LS instead and save $$.

 

[bullbreaker]

Not brand bashing however look hard at the 3039R seems like theres been some concerns with a couple frame issues in the past .

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...9r-engine-frame-broke.html?highlight=ls+3039r

 

[rademamj1]

I thought the 3039R the OP referred to was a John Deere tractor, and he was avoiding it because of turbocharging.

The above thread refers to a 2013 LS R3039 tractor, which broke its frame at the loader bolt, and was found to be a common frame crack for that LS model and year specific.

 

[m1garand762]

The 3039r is a deere. The workmaster 40 is new holland both have a turbo i haven't read too much dad on the deere other than the specs are less than kubota but the new holland , at least on here have had some turbo and egr problems in the cold

I thought the 3039R the OP referred to was a John Deere tractor, and he was avoiding it because of turbocharging.

 

[bullbreaker]

rademamj1 sorry about the confusion I thought he was referring to the LS model . :mur:

 

[rademamj1]

rademamj1 sorry about the confusion I thought he was referring to the LS model . :mur:

No Problem.....and indeed you were close, as LS makes the New Holland WorkMaster40 tractor the OP was discussing. I did read that thread you highlighted with great interest, because it appeared LS had issued frame repair procedures to dealers as a bulletin. Indicating they had multiple occurence of that specific repair.

 

[Qapla]

While I like Kubota for quality and longevity - I would have to pass on one. For me, there are considerations beyond the turbo.

Since most of my work would involve the FEL I want/like/need the HST. The problem for me is that Kubota only seems to offer the rocker pedal for forward/reverse movement. Using one of those kills my bad leg. I need either lever control or separate pedals. I asked our local Kubota dealer if they odder the HST with these options and he said that they do NOT. The rocker pedal is the only option. He said he didn't know why it is that way since he has had several people ask the same thing - seems I'm not the only one who can't use the rocker.

If they had the two pedals like NH does or lever control I would put Kubota at the top of my list.

 

[paulfun9]

While I like Kubota for quality and longevity - I would have to pass on one. For me, there are considerations beyond the turbo.

Since most of my work would involve the FEL I want/like/need the HST. The problem for me is that Kubota only seems to offer the rocker pedal for forward/reverse movement. Using one of those kills my bad leg. I need either lever control or separate pedals. I asked our local Kubota dealer if they odder the HST with these options and he said that they do NOT. The rocker pedal is the only option. He said he didn't know why it is that way since he has had several people ask the same thing - seems I'm not the only one who can't use the rocker.

If they had the two pedals like NH does or lever control I would put Kubota at the top of my list.

Your definitely not the only one who has issue with the single pedal.

 

[rScotty]

Your definitely not the only one who has issue with the single pedal.

I've gotten used to the Kubota system. It's OK. It sure helped when they went to the newer shaped pedal. Our M59 was one of the first to have the differently shaped single pedal that only uses the toe of your foot to engage either Fwd or Rev while your heel move back and forth on the floorboard.

It took some getting used to. Unlike JD and other two pedal systems where you swing your foot from side to side to change directions, in the Kubotas with the new shape pedal you move your foot forward and backwards. Both systems use your toes; if someone has the old heel/toe rocker type pedal and doesn't like it you ought to be able to change the pedal. Mines just held on with a cotter pin. I didn't think that old heel/toe rocker type pedal was still OEM on anything.

The Kubota does have one thing going for it. When using their single pedal it is impossible to engage forward and reverse at the same time. Maybe they think that is important for the HST.
rScotty

 

[paulfun9]

I've gotten used to the Kubota system. It's OK. It sure helped when they went to the newer shaped pedal. Our M59 was one of the first to have the differently shaped single pedal that only uses the toe of your foot to engage either Fwd or Rev while your heel move back and forth on the floorboard.

It took some getting used to. Unlike JD and other two pedal systems where you swing your foot from side to side to change directions, in the Kubotas with the new shape pedal you move your foot forward and backwards. Both systems use your toes; if someone has the old heel/toe rocker type pedal and doesn't like it you ought to be able to change the pedal. Mines just held on with a cotter pin. I didn't think that old heel/toe rocker type pedal was still OEM on anything.

The Kubota does have one thing going for it. When using their single pedal it is impossible to engage forward and reverse at the same time. Maybe they think that is important for the HST.
rScotty

One hour on even the newest kubota and my leg and hip is hurting. Simply put there is no getting use to it for me.

As stated I don’t like it it’s uncomfortable and most people I know that have used both prefer the dual pedal. Why would anyone want to get used to it, should I go back to manual steering rather than power? You know I’m sure I would get used to it!