where to buy HST tranny fluids?

[mathey]

I 'm the owner of a Kioti CK20HST with 41 hours on it. The first 50 hour service requires changing the transmission fluid. The manual recommends the following fluids: Shell Donax-TD or TM, Mobile Fluid 350, or Exxon Torque Fluid 56.

Where can this stuff be purchased?

Are there other brands that are equivalent or better?

Thanks in advance...

 

[5030]

Try your dealer . It's always good to patronize the folks you bought the unit from. They have to make a living too.

 

[uhmgawa]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The manual recommends the following fluids: Shell Donax-TD or TM, Mobile Fluid 350, or Exxon Torque Fluid 56.

Where can this stuff be purchased?)</font>

You are fortunate to have an unencumbered choice. Many
manufacturers would have you believe only their aftermarket
products can safely be used in their equipment. The subtle
implication is that of warranty claim complication/denial
in near violation of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975:

http://www.ram-it.com/Understanding%20the%20Magnuson.htm

 

[Chief]

Chevron makes very good lubricants and there should be a petroleum distributor in your area. They are usually in the phone book.

Link to Chevron

The Magnusson Moss Warranty Act is empty legisilation that does nothing. Unless you are idependently weathly and have unlimited time and resources; the manufacturer can do what ever they want unless NTSA or the Government gets involved. Just use what the manufacturer specifies and stay out of warranty trouble.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

By calling a distributor for ANY major oil distributor, they'll be able to cross the #'s over to their product and give ya the # plus local retail places that sale 'em.

 

[uhmgawa]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The Magnusson Moss Warranty Act is empty legisilation that does nothing. Unless you are idependently weathly and have unlimited time and resources; the manufacturer can do what ever they want unless NTSA or the Government gets involved.)</font>

..or are engaged in class action litigation.

The point is the existence of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act
defines legal boundaries for what a manufacturer may do with
respect to warranty constraints.

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Just use what the manufacturer specifies and stay out of warranty trouble. )</font>

Vote for whatever business practice you choose to propagate.
I would prefer to choose a manufacturer which openly
specifies a generic standard (as in the original post)
rather than only specifying a proprietary product in an
attempt to create a captive market.

 

[SageBrush]

As a wholeseller I agree. Branding is nothing but advertizing. I sell bulk nutrition/food/soap products and plants/trees. Sometimes I sell the same exact product with different brand labels (different customers) for the same wholesale prices. One large calcium product I sell with a known brand name on the label retails for $98.00, the generic brand sells for $39.99, same stuff right down to the COA and container. Certain brand names can add 250% to a retail product, yet the product comes from the exact same source and lot number.

You can't always trust the big national brands either, they change suppliers and bottlers etc. and the consumer has no idea who really makes the stuff. After a few years even an oil company can change quality without anyone on the retail level knowing about it. Shop specs, not brand names. Try to find test reports and compare.

 

[mcycle]

I saw tranny fluids at Sam's Club the last time I was there. Don't remember all the brand names or specs. One of the 5gal. buckets was Shell. You might want to check it out. Price wasn't bad.

 

[Chief]

uhmgawa, most if not nearly all manufactures publish a specification reference standard as to what type lubricants you may use. As long as the lubricant or what ever meets that spec. IN WRITING, you have met the requirements of the warranty. If you use an incorrect lubricant or fluid; you as the owner are responsible should the manufacture elect not to repair the damage. That is just plain old common sense. If I rebuild an engine for a customer and they decide to use transmission oil instead of motor oil; they are responsible for repair costs, not me, this would also be the case with a piece of equipment under warranty by a major manufacturer. There is no requirement to use the manufacturer's brand of lubricant or fluid, just the correct spec. lubricant or fluid. John Deere ever tells you this in the owner's manual. The MM Act does not protect you from using incorrect fluids.

 

[uhmgawa]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( uhmgawa, most if not nearly all manufactures publish a specification reference standard as to what type lubricants you may use.)</font>

Most, but not all.

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( As long as the lubricant or what ever meets that spec. IN WRITING, you have met the requirements of the warranty.)</font>

Obviously.

My comments were directed at manufacturers which do not
reference industry standard grades but only specify (or
strongly recommend) their proprietary product(s) without an
alternative.

For example, Kubota operates as such with respect to HST
fluid. Fisher (snowplows) does as well for its hydraulic
systems.