Where are the sun spots?

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OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ITEOTWAWKI!!!!
 
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That doesn't mean that global warming isn't still happening. Even though the planets tempature has been decreasing for the last ten years because of the lesser activity from the sun, global warming is a very serious, man made, disaster that's just taking a break. Even though the cooling process is natural, it's happening in spite of the man made heating of the planet. Once the sun starts to heat up the planet again, then it will be because of man and global warming will be because of burning fossil fuel.

Eddie
 
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forgot to mention...I realize wiki is not the be-all-get-all of definitions.. but for a simple issue like sunspots.. i believe it suffices..

soundguy
 
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EddieWalker said:
That doesn't mean that global warming isn't still happening. Even though the planets tempature has been decreasing for the last ten years because of the lesser activity from the sun, global warming is a very serious, man made, disaster that's just taking a break. Even though the cooling process is natural, it's happening in spite of the man made heating of the planet. Once the sun starts to heat up the planet again, then it will be because of man and global warming will be because of burning fossil fuel.

Eddie

I am sceptical about the amount of human contribution to "global warming". I know that it is the current buzz word and research proposals have a greater chance of funding if they are "for" global warming than if otherwise. Remember that history is full of "well established scientific thought" being completely wrong.

It is possible that the Sun is entering a lower activity phase but because of hysteresis it will be a long time before we really see that reflected in our weather. I think that man's activities such as deforestation have a bigger impact on world weather patterns than gas emissions.

Vernon
 
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IH3444 said:
This guy is trying to keep planet earth warm during the time of reduced sun spots, and a solar minimal period. Hat off to him.........

Tennessee Center for Policy Research

Please note that I am not a Gore supporter and he is one of my least liked politicians but I hate to see an article that uses facts in a way to make it seem even much worse than it is. Let's compare apples to apples. This article states "Energy Guzzled by Al Gore's Home in Past Year Could Power 232 U.S. Homes for a Month". However, they are comparing a year of Gore's usage to a month of an average homes usage. The headline should correctly read "Energy Guzzled by Al Gore's Home in Past Year Could Power 19 U.S. Homes for a year". Their headlines make people think he used as much energy as 232 homes when he only used as much as 19 homes. Either way he is definitely an "energy guzzler". ;)
 
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He uses 37 times more electricity than me. Anyway, Eddie I imagine it's easy to believe there is global warming on a summer day in Texas but up here in Wisconsin it just ain't happening along with many parts of the world. I here it snowed in Bagdad this winter, and the media never said a word. We had a good frost on the ground just three weeks ago, coldest May I ever saw. The Ash trees last week still were not fully leafed out in northern Wisconsin. M€ore snow this year since 1887. We were also told global warming would create dust bowls, droughts and heat up our planet enough that we couldn't grow crops. In the last 2 weeks we had 12" of rain. In Iowa there is 5 million acres of corn under water( which raised the food prices up all over the world and corn went to 8 bucks a bushel ) I never believed in global warming and if I'm wrong, good! Now we hear valid stories about Al Gores electric bills like this and I'm supposed to believe him? God this week must have gotten a chuckle out of these guys this week. Global warming? Drought? I'll show them he said! Oh by the way the Missy is unbelievably high, water is even over some of the dams.
 
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10,000 years ago we had an ice age . The weather has been warming ever since , the ice caps have been receeding ever since . What is new about all of this ? The ice age could have been caused by a meteor strike causing the sunlight to be blocked out by dust clouds or it may be a cycle of the planets we do'nt yet know about or indeed caused by solar activity . But as far as we are concerned , we are like a cancer on the face of the Earth . The most selfish polluting organism ever created . But our time is at hand and once "she" wipes us from her lands it will be quiet , peaceful and beautiful again .
 
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It is the height of human arrogance and hubris to think man causes global warming. I completely agree with the President of the Czech Republic who believes the modern environmentalists are the latest version of Marxists and Communists. Things that used to be mandated in the name of the state and in the name of the proletariat will now be done in the name of the planet.
 
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polluting organism ever created

There was another organism well before us that so polluted it's atmosphere that we could have life. It has long been extinct!:D
 
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MikePA said:
It is the height of human arrogance and hubris to think man causes global warming. I completely agree with the President of the Czech Republic who believes the modern environmentalists are the latest version of Marxists and Communists. Things that used to be mandated in the name of the state and in the name of the proletariat will now be done in the name of the planet.

They used to burn people at the stake for saying that the Earth is round and not the center of the universe. Those doing the burning didn't know how to understand the scientific mathematical calculations and indeed, had no desire to. They were the arrogant ones because they just invented their own truth and decided the ones with the new viewpoint were arrogant to the point of needing to be executed. Same thing still exists today. There are those who don't understand the mechanics of genetic mutation nor the thermal insulation effects of Carbon Dioxide. Instead of trying to understand science, they just label others as arrogant and compare them to communists.
 
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Fortunately for Mr. Gore, he's been able to earn $100,000,000 since leaving office and was able to afford to make his home more energy efficiant. Just imagine if he didn't have all that money to put in those fancy lightbulbs, solar panels and other upgrades. His consumption was only up ten percent over last year!!!!!

Of course, Mr. Gore isn't the only one making millions off of global warming. The United Nations said it will take $45,000,000,000,000 to fix the problem. Anybody wondering who's going to come up with that? Maybe we call all pitch in and pay more taxes!!!!!

I don't even want to think who's gonna collect the money, but if I can scam a few million out of it, I'm all for it. :)

Eddie
 
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If you believe in man made global warming please read this:

I recently watch a show about the exploration of the deepest parts of the oceans. Virtually every single scientist in the world agreed that there was no life at the bottom of the oceans, virtually all of the science and data showed that it would be impossible for anything to live there. Yet they were 100% wrong the depths are full of life.

Those who are sure that global warming is man made need to remember this. And their numbers and circumstantial evidence come no where near what we had on the oceans.

There is plenty of evidence that gives us reason to be suspicious of the global warming community, the least of which is the continuation of their pay checks depend on the science to agree. This is why they refuse to debate the subject, nothing can be allowed to "rock the boat".

History will show global warming to the biggest scam since Y2K. And likely before its over, the biggest scam for eternity.

It is a political movement designed to create the biggest tax rip off in the history of man. And most of those involved are well intentioned people who are being used by these charlatans, by playing on their fears.

When the selling and taxing of carbon begins, (their goal), in the name of saving the world, remember that when the income tax was started, it was sold as something that will only be paid by a hand full of people. And how did that work out?
 
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There is a lot more carbon dioxide on earth that which is found in the atmosphere. It is dissolved is sea water, and it is "sequestered" in rocks like limestone (calcium carbonate) and sea shells (calcium carbonate again).

The percentage found as free carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is very low.

Many very reputable scientists believe that carbon dioxide in the atmosphere increases after temperature increases rather than being the cause of temperature increase.

The primary driver for temperature on earth is solar input.

The other thing Mr. Gore hasn't bothered to mention is that of all the greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere, water vapor is the predominant one. Depending on who is doing the estimating, water vapor accounts for 85-95% of the total greenhouse effect on earth.
 
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Or maybe the sunspot activity has declined as we go out looking for them at night and can't see them in the dark???:D :D :D
 
 
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