what's your opinion of this situation?

[AlanB]

Heck, Rollingsfarms, I got $200................

The guy is not your freind.

There is a group of us that I call friends here that loan stuff around in circles. I know the "dont loan stuff" crew is here, but for us, it lets us use tools, and have stuff available, that you would not normally need.

How often do you need a hardwood floor stapeler, or a concrete mixer etc. etc.?

Freinds, are the guys that call you at 5 in the morning Monday, where everything went to crap on what you were working at Sunday and tell you they took the day off from work to come help you sort it around and get it going in the right direction.

Good luck, but that guy would be an "aquaintance" of mine, because he sure would not be what I call a freind. My freinds would be embarresed and would have brought the $200 or the gun back that night and apologized that they had not handled it sooner.

 

[MikeD74T]

Rollingsfarms, In reading this thread an odd thought struck me, I'm in the same situation with my best friend but from the opposite direction. We borrow each other's stuff when one has something the other doesn't. He just comes & gets what he needs & I do the same. Often I have his stuff longer than he has mine because if I'm at his house he'll remind me to take my stuff home & if I do the same he'll say just to keep it & he'll get it when there's a need. I suppose he's taking advantage of my storage space which is ironic because he owns 6 self storage buildings. I'd never give up the friendship for even a few thousand dollars much less a couple of hundred, but I don't share that level of friendship with anyone else. Despite your friends financial situation he seems to need constant confirmation of your friendship ( or maybe he's just a mooch). It seems to me that you're both more comfortable with your situation than you might admit. MikeD74T

 

[WTA]

I used to be like this with one of my neighbors. We just went and got each others stuff without asking and took it back usually when we were done. He started getting weird on me this year though. It's costing everyone more to run a small farm these days then it used to and everyone is feeling the pinch but to me that's no excuse to start charging a good neighbor money to use your stuff. That's what he did. He wanted to charge me to use his baler and swather.

I went out and bought my own instead. Now he wants to "borrow" mine because mine is better. MUCH better. I haven't made up my mind yet on it but I'm leaning towards charging him too. I also don't want my equipment hooked up to any other tractor. I don't want the hydraulic fluid in my new tractor contaminated by a 40 year old unfiltered JD's system. I'll have to charge extra for the use of my tractor too I guess.

I just never dreamed of asking a neighbor for money before this year. Where I'm from we just helped out because it was the neighborly thing to do.

 

[Charlesaf3]

Yeah, Rollingfarms, I think you're wrong.

Not about the gun or the money, but about calling that guy a friend. He's a user. And you know it of course, but you really shouldn't loan him anything. You sound like a really good guy who has bent over backwards and is getting abused.

I'd happily loan just about anything to a friend. And borrow anything. But it would have to be a real friend...

 

[Podunkadunk]

Tell him about TBN. Let him read this thread. End of story.

I'm glad I don't have any friends like yours.

Podunk

 

[RobJ]

Nah you did ok, we all have good things and bad things with some of our friends. Maybe this friend is better at other things??

.243 for $200? I'll take it for $225!! Rem 700?

 

[RollingsFarms]

Nah you did ok, we all have good things and bad things with some of our friends. Maybe this friend is better at other things??

.243 for $200? I'll take it for $225!! Rem 700?

it's a Savage youth model .243. bolt action, no scope, just eye sights and has a sling. gun is about 15 years old or so.

 

[RobJ]

it's a Savage youth model .243. bolt action, no scope, just eye sights and has a sling. gun is about 15 years old or so.

Around here you can't even GIVE those away!! .. kidding

 

[RollingsFarms]

Around here you can't even GIVE those away!! .. kidding

that's why when the guy said $200 and he wanted it, i was more then happy to offer it to him!

 

[Alden Plowen]

Well now, it appears that you have become the latest victim of a rip-off artist with less honor than a common thief.

Look at it this way. A thief breaks into your house and steals your $200 rifle. He is in effect saying, "I stole your rifle and I am going to keep it or sell it. You ain't ever going to see it again. Sorry, it's just business."

The result is that you have lost your $200 rifle.

On the other hand, your rip-off artist "friend" borrows your rifle and says that he will pay you $200 for it, but has no intention of ever paying you.

The result is that you have lost your $200 rifle.

I would suggest that the common thief is the more honorable. He only stole your rifle. Your "friend" has in effect not only stolen your rifle, but has caused you aggravation and and has hurt you as a fellow human being by stringing you along saying that he will pay you with no intention of doing so.

So, what to do? It depends. Is he a nutcase? Do you want to play hardball with this guy or would you rather use less drastic measures to talk him into paying you as he should? How much energy do you want to put into getting paid?

Let us know how much the $200 means to you, and I and others may have some solutions for you. We will have a little fun on the way through and everybody will be happy. This fellow needs a lesson in honorable behavior.

Have a good day.

Alden

 

[tallyho8]

Why don't you just go hunting with your wife and borrow it back for your wife to use?

 

[Champy]

Never loan money or goods to your friends....blah blah blah..... we all know that advice, and yet every one of us has been burned at one time or another.

I have always taught my boys that if a "friend" does not return something borrowed, that is the price of their friend's character. Someone borrows $5 for lunch and never pays you back....thats the value they have put on their own honor..........and you now know how much to value them; their word; their honor; or character. And by the way - true friends are priceless, with infinite value of character and trust

 

[CurlyDave]

I have always taught my boys that if a "friend" does not return something borrowed, that is the price of their friend's character. Someone borrows $5 for lunch and never pays you back....thats the value they have put on their own honor.

The only exception is if somehow they forget. I know I have been guilty of this a few times, not often. Which is why I always try to carry my own weight and then a little more.

It is a fine line. Pay for too much or too often and a real friend will feel uncomfortable.

 

[RollingsFarms]

Why don't you just go hunting with your wife and borrow it back for your wife to use?

don't have a wife or a girlfriend, so that excuse wouldn't work. if any of you have a single daughter you want to get married off let me know! she must have a tractor and a boat. send pic of tractor and boat

 

[tallyho8]

don't have a wife or a girlfriend, so that excuse wouldn't work. if any of you have a single daughter you want to get married off let me know! she must have a tractor and a boat. send pic of tractor and boat

My neighbor's aunt is interested. Here are photos of her tractor and boat. If interested, she wants to see a copy of your latest bank statement.

 

[Wayne County Hose]

My neighbor's aunt is interested. Here are photos of her tractor and boat. If interested, she wants to see a copy of your latest bank statement.

Tallyho8, that was just too funny. I'm still laughing.

 

[RollingsFarms]

My neighbor's aunt is interested. Here are photos of her tractor and boat. If interested, she wants to see a copy of your latest bank statement.

haha yeah that was really funny. i can tell you on here what my last bank statement was, and you can pass along the info to her. hope the figures don't go to her head!

-$0.00

just got done paying bills for the month.

 

[riptides]

haha yeah that was really funny. i can tell you on here what my last bank statement was, and you can pass along the info to her. hope the figures don't go to her head!

-$0.00

just got done paying bills for the month.

At least you broke even! Better than running in the red.

 

[Podunkadunk]

Why don't you just go hunting with your wife and borrow it back for your wife to use?

Why don't you just man up, go tell him what a sap he is, demand your gun and other stuff back he's borrowed over the years. (Sap is a family friendly word I would have used a much more common word that you hear on television all the time).

After you get your truck loaded up with your stuff that he's taken over, drive away, don't say goodbye. Enough of this Mr. Rogers crap and letting people abuse you like a red-headed step child.

Podunk