What if?

[JDGREEN4ME]

If you needed a CUT (20-25HP) with loader
and backhoe and could not spend over 25K
what would you pick? JD 4115,4210,Kubota 7500/7800,
BX, NH TC24, Kioti CK20? Something else?

 

[dancce]

Have you looked at LongAgribusiness Landtrac 390---39HP four cylinder Mitsibishi engine, Hydostatic trans. loader and backhoe package?
Nice outfit and hard to beat price!

dancce

 

[stvman]

If my primary use was going to be the loader I would buy a hydro machine. If I was looking more for backhoe use I would buy a gear tractor allowing me to upsize the tractor for a bigger hoe.

As for a brand of tractor in my area Deere and Kub prices are steep so I would more likely go NH or Massey again the primary use is a big determining factor. Steve...

 

[yellowsocks93]

I kinda like the 4115. Today I went on a delivery to drop off some attachments to a guy who had a 4115 and it seemed better than the 4210. I think they are built well and built by Yanmar if I am not mistaken.

Nick
990 4x4 turf, 272 RFM, 430 loader, 25A flail

 

[pekabu]

Currently buying the TC24 with FEL/BH.

 

[DavidJ]

I'm sure they're higher up there but for 25K I would get a NH TC-33D. I was quoted $23,400 for that setup. I opted out of the BH but now wish I had gone ahead and gotten it. The wife said I could get one of those back digging things when she goes back to work.

I looked at Longagri and as Dancce said the 390 hst is a good solid unit but I didn't fit it.

 

[8561]

Picking up a Kubota B2410 with R4's, 352 FEL and a backhoe next Saturday. Saw one like it at a fair today and can't wait.

 

[frank_f15]

i don't beleive any of the tractors u listed, with the options you want will cost over 25k. unless the prices have gone up dramatically.

 

[Tonester]

One thing worth considering is just how much you will use the BH. A CUT isn't going to give you alot of ooomph in the BH department and it will run alot of dough. I was considering a BH for my Massey 1433, but after comparing rental prices per year to the cost of the BH I realized that the rental unit would do MUCH more work in a day. A BH for my rig would run 5 to 7 grand, rentals from my dealer are 175.00 a day. After all, even a small excavator will be much more efficient at trench work for example.. Consider digging a bit, moving the tractor, dig some more, move the tractor...can be a real pain. Then with the savings you can buy a better tractor, or more attachments, you name it....

 

[Docsknotinn]

Of the choices given I like the JD4115. Dave

 

[BLUEBONNET2]

before you spend the money, just take a look and drive a CENTURY 2535. THIS IS A REAL NEEEETTT cut, lots of power and easy to like. probly under 21 with a hoe....... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

good luck,
gary

 

[BobG_in_VA]

I kinda stayed out of this till now. Suggest you also look at Mahindra tractors. Great bang for the buck and I believe you will find that the GPM output on most CUTs will be marginal for the use of a BH. Mahindra actually makes a PTO hydraulic unit (for the big AG tractors anyway) for their BH. Check the 3510 units out; you may be pleasantly surprised. BobG in VA

Mahindra 6000 4WD tractor (2002)
MD 264 FEL
7ft International HD Rotary Cutter
7ft Corriher (Midwest) HD 30 series BoxBlade

FARMAL 230 Rowcrop tractor (1957)
2 bottom turning plow (2pt fasthitch)
7ft sickle bar mower (2 pt fasthitch)

 

[GregJ]

I have one of the tractors you listed and here is my very biased opinion, because I have never used any of the others. I have the Kubota B7500 with a BH and love it. It has exceeded all of my expectations. It is well engineered, built rock solid and a very powerful package in a small footprint. I have had it a year now and have not had a single problem with it. I have used it to do things it probably shouldn't have done. Overall, this is an amazing machine. If you have room for a larger machine, I imagine the B7800 would be every bit as reliable and have significantly more power. As far as the BH, I never could have predicted how much I would use it. I now find that 30-50% of my seat time involves the BH. I had salesmen actually try to talk me out of buying it because I probably wouldn't use it that much. Boy were they wrong. The only problem is that you will become very popular with the neighbors when you have a BH. Just yesterday I got an emergency phone call from a neighbor to dig a 150' ditch for an underground electrical service.
Obviously a very biased viewpoint, but hopefully I have represented the "Orange" perspective well.

Greg

 

[JDGREEN4ME]

Thanks for all the input...due to weight restrictions the JD 4210 and 790 are out of the running. Would any one happen to know the weight of the Kubota 7500/7800? if you also have weight w/loader & BH that would be great. If I want to stay in the immediate area my options are pretty much the big three. The nearest Kioti dealer is around 100 miles away and it looks like a CK would be a weight issue also. (due to trailer/tow vehicle limitations)

 

[GregJ]

The B7500 is 1367 lbs. The 4672 BH is approx. 850lbs. The 302 FEL is 612lbs. All together is puts the complete unit around 3,000lbs.

Greg

 

[rockyridgefarm]

My setup was $23K. I love it!!!

We are especially pleased with the 47hoe and how well it fits the tractor.

 

[8561]

Weight and footprint were also considerations when I made my choices (B2410, Loader, Backhoe). By the way, you set a price of $25,000, I did mine with R4 tires and folding rops for under $20,000.

 

[stvman]

Are you joking! 23k for a 4310 ehydro 430loader/47backhoe how badly did you beat the dealer to get that price? Is he still alive /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif All kidding aside that is 6k less than my dealers BEST price.

 

[stvman]

Sorry, My quote was for a 48 hoe but I don't think the price diff is that much. (about a grand)

 

[stvman]

My salesman also added he would most likely get his butt chewed for giving me such a great price. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif