What If I ran a 540 RMP pump @ 1100 RPM?

   / What If I ran a 540 RMP pump @ 1100 RPM? #1  

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This is a hypothetical question...

I've got three speed settings on my PTO. What would happen if I ran a 540 RPM PTO pump at a higher speed...say 1100 RPM?

Would I get more flow less pressure?

More flow a the same pressure?

Just a big mess?
 
   / What If I ran a 540 RMP pump @ 1100 RPM? #2  
More flow, more pressure - assuming you have the power to spin it faster. You will want to have a good relief valve in the pressure line. Check pump pressure spec and set it below that. If its a hydraulic pump you should do some homework to assure it can handle overspeed w/o cavitation.
larry
 
   / What If I ran a 540 RMP pump @ 1100 RPM? #3  
Or shrapnel?
David from jax
 
   / What If I ran a 540 RMP pump @ 1100 RPM? #4  
More flow, same pressure I believe.
You might be headed for disaster though.
 
   / What If I ran a 540 RMP pump @ 1100 RPM? #5  
You should get more flow up to the fluid flow limiting sizing's of the pump. Maximum pressure should stay the same unless it is a PD type pump.:D

You may also want to consider a cage to catch all the pieces if it disintegrates!:D
 
   / What If I ran a 540 RMP pump @ 1100 RPM? #6  
Egon said:
You should get more flow up to the fluid flow limiting sizing's of the pump. Maximum pressure should stay the same unless it is [[[not]?] a PD type pump.:D :D
think you left out a word?
larry
 
   / What If I ran a 540 RMP pump @ 1100 RPM?
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#7  
Egon said:
You should get more flow up to the fluid flow limiting sizing's of the pump. Maximum pressure should stay the same unless it is a PD type pump.:D

You may also want to consider a cage to catch all the pieces if it disintegrates!:D

Next dumb question: What's a PD type pump?

How is it different from others? Why would it make a difference?

I love this forum! I always learn stuff here.
 
   / What If I ran a 540 RMP pump @ 1100 RPM? #8  
PD = Positive displacement pump. If this type of pump is speed-ed up the increased volume flow resistance will increase the output pressure on an ongoing basis.

On a centrifugal pump this pressure will increase to a certain degree but stop increasing when the pressure limits of the vanes or stages are met.
 
   / What If I ran a 540 RMP pump @ 1100 RPM? #9  
My understanding of a PD pump was one that displaced a set volume of fluid per revolution, like a gear pump.
If this is correct then would it produce full pressure at any volume, the max pressure being set by the tolerance of the gear lobes.
 
   / What If I ran a 540 RMP pump @ 1100 RPM? #10  
Your pump would probably cavitate then grenade.
 

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