What fruit trees?

   / What fruit trees? #31  
I work at the local extension agency, called Virginia Cooperative Extension, as a master gardener.

What I just told him is what we know.

Ralph
 
   / What fruit trees? #32  
In Va. cedar rust is a problem with apple trees. If there are any cedar trees near the apple trees forget it.
 
   / What fruit trees? #33  
Commercial orchards and other growers succeed because they take a systematic approach to disease control and pest pressure. And it can be huge expense that some growers aren't willing to make especially with tree fruit. Plus it could also be very time consuming depending on the size of the operation.

Smaller bush fruit can sometimes be less demanding depending on local growing conditions. Organic no spray/low spray fruit production is okay especially for private production I'm certainly in favor of it. But if your looking to profit from your endeavors it might make marketing products difficult depending on peoples expectations.

My boss..."Hey I have a sore throat from eating all this fresh fruit". Me..."No Boss that's just from all the pesticide." :confused2:

Along with access to chemicals not generally available without a pesticide applicators license the use of specialized equipment helps considerably, such blast sprayers where a thick leaf canopy is difficult to penetrate.

Much of it is preemptive too starting in the earliest parts of the growing season. It's an on going battle for the most part (not if problems are going to come but when) and usually by the time a casual observer notices any problem it is sometimes hard to eradicate and the best you can hope for is to keep it in check at that point (think tomato blight...you don't spray ahead of time and then boom one day its there and usually only gets worse :D)

Warmer temperatures can certainly exacerbate disease problems as does dampness...rains and/or high humidity. The Northeast growers often experience increase disease problems with those conditions.

I watch too many growers/budding farmers learn stuff the hard way, like it aint hard enough already. :laughing:
but then of course experience can be the best teacher (however costly that may be)

Truly some of best you things can do is to utilize all the experience that extension agents and university research programs can provide. And avail yourself to industry oriented publications that relate to what your doing or want to do.

Here is the link to Virginia Tech's latest online commercial spray bulletin

2015 Spray Bulletin for Commercial Tree Fruit Growers | Publications and Educational Resources | Virginia Tech


I was going to recommend this link earlier in this thread Growing. You can get hard copy or E subscription if your serious, otherwise limited magazine access is up online. Used to be strictly a Northeast publication but has a expanded range now.

The January issue has on overview to apple orchard production by U Minn extension with links to commercial tree fruit production guides offered by Penn State. Dec archive has Expanding your Fruit Inventory...Finding a new crop.

My boss must have read that somewhere...he decided on a new vineyard for red seedless grapes and also espalier production on top of the thousands of trees and the 26 varieties of apples we already grow along with the peaches, pears, apricots, blueberries, raspberries, and strawberries we have too.

Obviously not intended for southern growers but here in the Northeast U Mass has extensive fruit growing resource information available online. Look under publications.

And there's always Cornell Fruit resources

I'm sure there are others too.

I want to see guys succeed at what they do

I really like that cider orchard plan of woodchuckdads
 
   / What fruit trees?
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#34  
Thanks all for the advice - I am looking for a relaxing hobby -not a constant fight.
Ralph, I live about 35 miles northeast, as the crow flies, from Charlottesville. Your sage advice is heard loud and clear.
 
   / What fruit trees? #35  
We had a guy come into the extension office one day. Seems he was following the commercial recommendations to grow a peach tree. He'd already put on a few pesticides and had a big container under his arm. His problem was he couldn't find one on the list. I more or less told him to forget it. Should have told him that if he wanted a big peach loaded with pesticides to just buy one at the store. This is pretty much what you have to do to grow large fruit here in Virginia.

Ralph
 
   / What fruit trees? #36  
Ralph, I'd like to talk to you at length about some of the things the extension office can offer. My orchard will be in Albemarle County.
 
   / What fruit trees? #38  
There is an orchard quite local to me and is an amazing work in progress, and really only going into its 8th year now under the current management.

A lot of unique old varieties can be found there. I hear folks talk and many believe its strictly an organic operation (which is extremely difficult at least in this part of the country with any commercial orchard venture) but I also see that is not how it is describe either.

Ecologically Grown is the current term used.


It is less than an hours drive for me but because our season's work schedules conflict, I have never had a chance to get there yet.

But it is high on my to do list. :D

This one orchard is in process of growing many different apples varieties. Some in common to the business I'm with and others very unique.

heirloom-apples-review


Old is new in many places these days, flavors outside of the mainstream varieties is what a lot of people want to experience these days.

And cider making is definitely in a resurgence right now, new businesses for both hard or sweet are growing fast. :D
 
   / What fruit trees? #39  
DFB, that was a great video. It put a smile on my face at several different points. Tomorrow, I plan to show it to my wife. She will love it.
 
   / What fruit trees? #40  
Ralph, I'd like to talk to you at length about some of the things the extension office can offer. My orchard will be in Albemarle County.
Since we are now in "seed catalog" season, interesting to see how hybrids are being developed to overcome regional problems. Whether you subscribe to the GMO "frankenfruit" theory or not I think it's kinda interesting. Shoot...we might once again see the majestic elm back on our streets before long. And given a few more years we might get emerald ash borer resistant trees.
 

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