What DO I need??

[texbaylea]

I am currently negotiating on the purchase of a Kubota L3130HST. I have always repaired all of my own equipment including a lot of automatic transmissions. Nothing could be as complicated as the 4L80E transmission in my GMC diesel pickup. I have not had any problems in 150K miles and I even do that NO-NO of towing in 4th gear. Might have to buy a few more special tools but I have always made it a policy to but the tools when needed. Except for in warranty items, I have never had a repairman in my house or my vehicles in a shop. I have no fear of a hydro transmission, if any thing from what I have seen, it is much simpler than current auto transmissions.

Go with what makes your life easier and gets your job done. If you follow the maintenance guides you will have few problems.

 

[KiotiJohn]

HST is nothing more than a hydraulic system. The diesel engine outputs power in the form of mechanical energy, Hydraulic pump transforms that energy into hydraulic energy, and a hydraulic motor transforms flow into revolution speed and pressure into torque. Really a rather simple machine with not too many parts. I would suspect that there is not an overall large difference in repair costs between gear/shuttle and HST transmissions, however, I don't know that. I do know that hydraulic fluids must remain uncontaminated with sand, trash, etc. or the pump can be ruined quickly. I love HST, but I also realize that great care must be taken to maintain a good clean system. John

 

[Dartagnan]

So how does this deal sound,
TC30 with woods loader 1008, Ags, Hydrostat, 5ftboxblade, 5ft rotary,&5ft landscape rake, $17,450.

Then I'll just get a rider for the "lawn" work.

Dart

 

[Bob_Skurka]

The TC30 is small enough to use to mow the lawn if you don't make too many tight curves and sharp corners with your landscaping. You might consider adding a mower deck and switching from R1 Ag tires to R4 Industrial tires, the R4s can be used on your lawn and give fairly good traction in most other conditions (but not wet clay). The are nice machines, very basic without frills, but true workhorses. It is hard to say if the price is good without knowing the brands and model number of each of the implements as there are various price ranges and qualitiy levels for each implement.

 

[Dartagnan]

It's a large well known and respected company, (I didn't think to ask at the time of call) so I expect them to be quality impliments, though not neccessarily "brand name". You can be sure I will be checking before putting my name on the dotted line.

Regarding Industrial vs Ag tires. (prob should check this on the NH forum, but since this is a popular thread I'll do it here) I've noticed on the specs for new holland that the industrial tires are wider than the Ag tires, or am I just reading the specs wrong? If they are wider, (my hot rodding days coming into play now) doesn't that mean more rubber on the road ergo more traction? But, will they "dig in" when you need to get the log started, pull the box blade ect?

(off topic but just paid a visit to the property and am still fuming)
Just a few words of advice for you guys, You know that old saw "If you want a job done right, do it yourself..? It applies to hiring big equipment operators too. Not saying the guy did it wrong, just not the way I wanted it. (My $ should = MY WAY)And it's kind hard to put the trees back...If I'm ever in this situation again, I'll bite the bullet, attack the learning curve, and rent my own, even if it costs me more $.

If your looking to put in a mobile home in East TN, South Ky, PM me and I'll tell you who not to use. And the multitude of reasons why.

Ok, nuff rant, back to tractors...

Dart

 

[Bob_Skurka]

R1 Agricultural tires have greater traction than R4 Industrial tires. Your post which asked about the tractor price quote said "ags" so I assume you mean R1 tires. The R4 tires may be wider than the R1 tires, but that does not mean they will give better traction. On anything other than pavement, the R1 tires have greater traction potential because they may dig into the earth and they are self clearing where an R4 tire can clog with clay or heavy mud. The difference between your hot rodding days and tractor tires is that you never know exactly what the surface conditions will be when on a tractor whereas road conditions are pretty uniform so tire performance can be more easily predicted.

 

[Dartagnan]

Thanks Bob,

Yes I meant R-1's when I said ags, and was pretty sure that they were what I wanted. All things being equal, I'd rather mess up the lawn than ride a 3000# tobagan I think. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif


Dart

 

[KiotiJohn]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( TC30 with woods loader 1008, Ags, Hydrostat, 5ftboxblade, 5ft rotary,&5ft landscape rake, $17,450.)</font>
I guess overall it doesn't sound like a bad price, but I'd rather judge it with the prices broken down. Tell us what you're paying for each individual item. My cousin bought a TC30 gear drive, disk harrow, and bedders for $13000 a couple of years ago, with the tractor being around $10K alone, so it's hard to know unless we know the component price. John