what did i screw up now

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knewell

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upper sandusky, ohio
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jd 1070
Was wondering if someone could help me figure out what I likely broke while trying to unfreeze my clutch on my jd 1070 mfwd. I was slamming the brakes with the clutch pedal engaged hoping to free the clutch while the tractor was moving. This worked one other time after tractor had sat awhile. Didn't realize it was in 4 wheel at the time if that matters. It wouldnt free up so I opened the cover and sprayed brake cleaner in clutch which broke it loose just by rocking the tractor while in gear eventually. Thought everything was fine until I realized it was in mfwd as i was getting ready to mow. When I disengaged the 4wd I get no rear wheel drive. The only way to make it move is by holding the diff lock on. I assume this happened while hitting the brakes when the clutch was frozen, but not sure as I havent been the one operating the tractor. I didn't hear anything unusual when I was rocking the brakes. The front wheels drive when I engage 4 wd. Thanks in advance...
 
   / what did i screw up now #2  
I dont see how anything you did could have caused a problem. All component are nominally much more robust than any force you could have applied. Nevertheless, there seems a problem with the rear differential. Do you have rear WD when in 4wd if the diff lock is not applied?
larry
 
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#3  
Thanks for the reply, Larry. I don't have rwd when in 4 wheel unless I use the diff lock.
 
   / what did i screw up now #4  
Somebody on here is gonna know exactly what that means is wrong with the rear diff. Hope they see the thread.
 
   / what did i screw up now #5  
Not sure if this is in his area of knowledge but you might pm J-J. He seems pretty knowledgeable. Hope this will help ya.
 
   / what did i screw up now #7  
In my opinion, and keep in mind it is just an opinion, and I am not a mechanic.. You have a broken axle or broken bevel gear on one side. this allows no force to be applied to the "good" axle side. because the broken side is so easy to turn and does not apply any power to the ground. Think of it like this, If you jacked up one side of the rear axle, only one tire (the jacked up side) would would turn, correct?. Now break that same axle or the bevel gear inside the differential that drives that side of the axle.. It would still turn inside and the tractor would still not move. Ok now step on the differential lock, the tractor lurches off of the jack as the "good" axle will rotate also and pull the tractor off of the jack.."Sorry to tell you this, but you have "big trouble" right here in "river city"

James K0UA
 
   / what did i screw up now #8  
Yep, Busted axle, jack it up and try to spin it and you will know.
 
   / what did i screw up now #9  
Two possibilities come to mind. Either the differential gears have failed or probably more likely You have a sheared stub shaft in one of the final drives. See #1 and #11 in the diagram.
 

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