What are your thoughts about speed limits?

Anonymous Poster · Jun 8, 2003

Sounds like this conversation became so engrossing that the driver had to be distracted (imagine 5 guys in a mini-van talking with their hands - the only way to conduct such a conversation).

You're in my sights.... /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Anonymous Poster · Jun 9, 2003

Knucklehead, it definitely appears there were too many engineers in said attack vehicle.
Allow me to enlighten you, I feel it's my duto to do so since my knowledge was paid for by the taxpayers, TRACERS do NOT have the same trajectory as live rounds, so load with all live ammo and observe the target more closely.
Secondly, don't be concerned about bullets hitting gas tanks relative to tire shots, a rapidly deflating tire from 50mph will usually take out the gas tank.
You also need to consider a safety lanyard on any handgun being used from a vehicle, after all, you wouldn't want to accidently drop a gun on the road, it could mess up the bluing.

Egon · Jun 9, 2003

Lordy; most of these problems would be solved by simply bringing back " The Train ".

Just think of the number of tracks the width of one highway could support.

Egon

knucklehead · Jun 9, 2003

Franz.....Okee......ouch! Truth hurts!

imagine 5 guys in a mini-van talking with their hands - the only way to conduct such a conversation

My wife constantly reminds me that the person on the other end of the phone cannot see my hands. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

You're in my sights.... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

We actually selected the two most careful and responsible (but not slow) drivers of the group for the trip down and back. I volunteered to be the tailgunner, since I already have a reputation as having a swivelneck which sometimes makes passengers slightly nervous, but serves well in maintaining a secure vehicle perimeter and spotting old trucks and tractors.

It's a team effort, driving in Massachusetts. I'll be watching for guys like you...we should arrange some kind of signal so we can sort each other out - maybe a steering wheel crossed with twin Bushmasters.

You also need to consider a safety lanyard on any handgun being used from a vehicle, after all, you wouldn't want to accidently drop a gun on the road, it could mess up the bluing

I agree, Franz....we hadn't thought about weapon retention, a very important subject. We did, however, only have a 3 hour commute (actually 2.5, but I didn't want to raise eyebrows), so many subjects had to be tabled or assigned as action items. And thanks for the tip on the tracers - we actually felt they might draw too much attention to the attack vehicle, and now that we know they are of reduced value in targeting, we will probably feel better about not using them. I think the improvised mirror rest will be sufficient, anyway.

Postscript: None of the toll takers in Maine, New Hampshire, or Massachusetts were interested in dickering for a lower toll price, although they displayed a great sense of humor about the idea.

Anonymous Poster · Jun 9, 2003

It's a team effort, driving in Massachusetts. I'll be watching for guys like you...we should arrange some kind of signal so we can sort each other out 

I actually came from Massachusetts to Florida, but that was 31 years ago, and I'm afraid I have lost most of the important driving skills I had so carefully nurtured at the time. The second-most important was the ability to pull out, one lane at a time, in front of oncoming traffic in order to establish my right to cross a multi-lane highway. I forgot and did that in Harrisburg, PA, one time, and almost caused the largest wreck ever seen in Pensylvania history; but Mass. drivers expected it.

But, by far, the most important skill in driving in Mass. was the ability to negotiate round-abouts without ever making eye contact with a fellow driver, for to make eye contact was to grant that other person the right of way. One charged in from the side street, eyes rigidly front and disregarding the traffic already in the circle, cut across a couple of lanes to get to the inside of the circle, and then when ready to exit, cutting back outside again, all without ever glancing from side to side. Excellent peripheral vision was a must, or you might be stuck forever trying to find a way into or out of the circle.

Traffic circles at intersections have been just recently introduced to my part of Florida, but they actually have the gall to install them with yield signs, or worse, stop signs! I ask you - what is the purpose of a traffic circle with stop signs? Ludicrous. But, it's probably just as well, as the snow bird drivers from other states have not mastered the technique of Massachusetts traffic circles, where only the weak yield...

 - maybe a steering wheel crossed with twin Bushmasters.


You don't need Bushmasters in Mass. Your vehicle is your weapon...

Anonymous Poster · Jun 9, 2003

Ah yes, Taxachusets, the home of the helmeted govenod riding in his tank, I didn't think they allowed the personal posession of firearms in that state yet. Oddly located adjacent to Vermont where the very concept of handgun licenses are scoffed at, and Neuevo Hillareah where we have "tough gun laws" that only apply to folks who don't need to be regulated, and the world's largest population of drivers with no idea of how to drive on limited access multilane highways.
Pennsylvania, the commonwealth where they install stop signs at the end of an onramp, and people actually STOP, cause they know drivers on the superslab will change lanes to allow entry for the poor shlub sitting at the end of the ramp. Just who came up with that concept, was it the same engineer who laid out the roads by following the drunken Dutchy on his mule? Pennsylvanians are very law abiding, back in 95, when the speed limit was 55, they went exactly 55 on the superslab, and signaled their lane change to engage in a 5 mile pass of the car going 53. Only one little problem in Pa, why do they plant trees in front of all the exit here for Route 22, and why is the sign for the Turnpike from 22 18" square and welded to the top of the center guard rail? You need a navigator and GPS to find anything other than Dorney Park.
NY is where we take driving as a cardiovascular workout, where the great or should that be grates me Govenor PayTakee has established his vaunted RoadRage squads of State Troopers, a/k/a ballbearing meter maids, to save us from those offending drivers of fate to their fellow inhabitants of the pavement at any provocation. My personal favorite was the punk who didn't like the F 350 merging into the lane he wasn't smart enough to speed up in, who decided to whip around me and then after getting back in front, lock his brakes up. F 350s have very strong front bumpers, and Trooper McDonald really loved the kid's explanation of how he taught me a lesson. Trooper McDonald didn't mind getting writer's cramp that day.
I'd love to continue, but I need to get back to mounting my paintball gun on the back of the F350 so I can decorate the windshield of the next nitwit who insists on tailgateing me. The CCTV system is already in, and should do a fine job of target acquisition.