What are your thoughts about speed limits?

   / What are your thoughts about speed limits? #41  
The problem with rocket launchers, .50 cal machine guns, small cannon, gatling guns or anything of that nature mounted forward from a car or pickup is twofold.
Ignoring the burnmarks on your own vehicle from rockets, you still have to contend with blowback from the target vehicle, and the resulting debris field from the hit. If you fire from sufficient distance to allow you to avoid the debris, you may well miss. Hitting a debris field at even 40mph will be he!! on your tires and the rest of your vehicle.
What we need are STUN devices for the drivers that will cause them to veer off the road, and give us a clear path. Yes, I realize it will be hard to tell when some of them have arrived at stun, but it's a good first step.
 
   / What are your thoughts about speed limits? #42  
When I stopped laughing, I decided your new nickname should be "Q". I'm sure he worked all that out for 007.... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

With all the hydraulics knowledge on TBN, we should be able to design a retractable boom that would extend forward, then gently sweep the offenders to one side or the other. Should be useful not only for slow driving teenagers, but for retired folks who like to poke along in the left lane. The natural testing ground would be Nascar....
 
   / What are your thoughts about speed limits? #43  
evidently you have not been watching enough tv. on tv they just run right though the debis and fire, never get the paint burned and those tires are really something. heck if i had a set of tires like those i would never need to buy another set. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
   / What are your thoughts about speed limits? #44  
<font color="blue"> Stun device!!!!!!!!!!! </font>

I think you may be onto something.

DC/AC 110 inverter That oughta wake Bird up /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Small air compressor and tank for propellant (no residue or smoke) /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
barrel could be fabricated and mounted under bumper, or better yet in the grill. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Small tough flexible wire. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Now how do we get it to stick to the car ( I mean target) /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<font color="blue"> Find an alternate route, or stop for a cup of coffee. Of course, if they've chosen the stretch of road carefully, neither alternative is available. In that case, sit back and relax, and grin knowing the future is safe because those particular kids actually have the ability to plan something! If you don't get angry, you win!
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Well put Don

Mike
 
   / What are your thoughts about speed limits? #45  
Frank

I've been a firefighter for 28 years and I'm still looking for one of those fire extuinguishers you can just knock the top off. Throw it in a building and put the whole thing out like they did in BACKDRAFT.
I will keep searching though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mike
 
   / What are your thoughts about speed limits? #46  
Hmmmm, Popeye, you may have stumbled onto something with your 2 posts.
Nitrogen cylinder 2200psi, mounted in a launcher under or thru the bumper, with a small charge of C4 to sever the valve and render the cylinder a projectile. I've seen the result of an oxygen cylinder when it fell and lost it's valve, and that puppy went thru the web of a 12" I beam.
It ain't gonna put out any fire, but it sure will get the attention of the driver in the car it hits. And, in the intrest of fire safety, Nitrogen is inert, and at higher pressure than Co2.
This is a manufacturing opportunity.
 
   / What are your thoughts about speed limits? #47  
Yeah but I had another thought too.... What's the recoil from the C4 or the .50 cal. gonna do to your gas mileage?
Mike
 
   / What are your thoughts about speed limits? #48  
Well, a .50 cal from your vehicle might have some minor effect on gas mileage, a cylinder acting as a rocket would NOT.
Always remember what the sticker said wneh you bought the car, "your mileage may vary".
 
   / What are your thoughts about speed limits?
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#49  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The problem with rocket launchers, .50 cal machine guns, small cannon, gatling guns or anything of that nature mounted forward from a car or pickup is twofold.
Ignoring the burnmarks on your own vehicle from rockets, you still have to contend with blowback from the target vehicle, and the resulting debris field from the hit. If you fire from sufficient distance to allow you to avoid the debris, you may well miss. Hitting a debris field at even 40mph will be he!! on your tires and the rest of your vehicle.
What we need are STUN devices for the drivers that will cause them to veer off the road, and give us a clear path. Yes, I realize it will be hard to tell when some of them have arrived at stun, but it's a good first step. )</font>

I think the best bet would be a highly directional EMP (electro magnetic pulse) device that simply knocks out all the electronics in the target vehicle. They can then coast to the side of the road and wait for the wrecker. No huge debris field then. Just one less idiot on the road.
 
   / What are your thoughts about speed limits? #50  
Wow - l like the way this is going, but there's a simpler solution. We made a day trip to Marlborough, MA (3 hour drive) on business last Wednesday, and got a first hand refresher course on life among commuters. Call us hicks, but the 5 of us from work had a great time watching and counting cell phones passing us. As it soon became obvious that nearly every car we looked into had a cell phone in use, we turned to seeing who was doing the most multitasking. The winner was a young lady who was keeping a butt up to the 1" crack in her window, talking on the phone, and passing us while holding a beverage. We figured tilt wheels must be an important commuter option, since it appeared her knees where doing the driving. Conversation degraded for a few moments as a couple of my colleagues explored the technical difficulties of using the turn signal with such a driving configuration. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

I know, I know - I said butt & crack in the same sentence - let it go, Beavis

As traffic got a little heavier and the observed driving behavior degraded proportionally, ensuing conversations naturally turned to armament. Our solution to the debris field problem was to leave the vehicle intact. This would either allow it to exit the travelled way, or present a single obstacle to avoid. Following such logic, we held a brainstorming session to determine proper weaponry, including a side discussion about the practicality of the sunroof, which generated another side discussion of the technical issues involved in duck hunting from a moving vehicle, including the proper lead, speed, and elevation for flocks approaching and departing, and crossing the vehicle path at various angles. This type of calculation being common in aeronautics, we all decided to shelve the waterfowl conversation pending further research into current flight path determination technology, and got back to the original topic.

As with the debris field problem, we again arrived at the simple solution: small arms fire will keep the vehicle intact. Initially, the right rear tire was thought to be the best target, as it would encourage leaving the road in that direction. But the difficulty of target aquisition and proximity to the fuel tank led us to "aim higher" in our discussion. Aquiring the rear window could be easily accomplished, and would allow the use of the outside rearview mirror as a barrel rest for one handed firing on a level plane. We also believe tracer rounds would allow the driver to maintain control of the vehicle while walking disabling fire onto the target.

One issue not mentioned here, but related to the debris field conversation, was the rapid deceleration of traffic flow in the immediate area surrounding the target vehicle. This would also result in decreased vehicle spacing, and undoubtedly spread for a significant distance behind the target vehicle. This could easily engulf the attack vehicle and lead to undesireable results, especially if the target vehicle was not travelling alone, and if the ammunition supply was not sufficient.

It became immediately obvious to most of the group in the rented minivan that the deceleration phenomenon would also produce a short term attenuation in the area beside and ahead of the target vehicle. Efforts then focused on determining how to navigate into those gaps, and as with both debris field and armament, the solution was simple: aim the attack vehicle for the target's location immediately before window disintegration. Using the target vehicle's natural merging trajectory will bring it into the line of fire and move it out of the attack vehicle's path. A slight acceleration should move the attack team into the position immediately vacated by the target, ahead of slowing traffic, and into the resulting attenuation gap immediately ahead of the target.

We have yet to apply a suitable name to the manouever, but we entertained ideas like the "495 Fork" or "Audi roll". Assuming the recounting of this conversation doesn't cause us to be detained and questioned by whomever may be performing surveillance on the world wide web, we plan to revisit the naming convention in future meetings, and again consider the waterfowl problem. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

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