Welding 3/16" & 1/4" with 120v wire-feed

[Furu]

Not questioning how much you've done, just questioning how much of your experience is full circle. Nuclear waste tanks are, and should be, a ZERO feedback loop. Judging how you assess perfectly serviceable welds, I suspect your feedback experience is about zilch (other than breaking or cutting test plates). In that sense a farmer welder could know more useful info. For example; what constitutes a serviceable weld in the real world.

Can you understand what I'm getting at? Not saying you don't know welding, but I do think you are lacking experience in the maintenance side and perhaps could withhold comment in such matters, as it shows.

Shield I think you could tone it down a bit, and maybe could learn something too. I think your biggest problem is you have no need to learn, you're not designing, building, all that's done before you strike an arc. Your scenario is a pretty small part of what many of us do (with a welding machine). Which is draw, cut, fit, weld, test, paint and use, then re-design a little paint again and keep moving. And have time to eat and sleep too.

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Great that Furu and Dragoneggs are learning. Their experience will come if they build stuff. Experience doesn't come in thru the ears. If there were some folks more experienced (that you've helped) I think they could tell me more than newbies. No doubt you could help me, and I like to know more, ALWAYS. But I think I'm already about 90% where I need to be (the welding part of my projects).

That you would still offer to help me better my welding, that's kind of you, thank you. I would like to do that sometime, but never have the time. If I have a moment, I'm working on a project, that might have 10-20 inches of weld and it's done. Or done enough. I hope you understand my position.

Sodo

I have been trying to figure you out since you started "helping" folks on TBN. Most of it has never made sense to me. Your help on my B&B question did not address the question until I poked you about it in another thread and finally you gave me an answer. I have no idea what your background, training, work, experience, etc. are, but you state that folks do not know how they come across on the forum/web. Probably a true statement in many cases, but I think you come across a lot different than you think you do. You may want to evaluate your own glass house as you lob stones.

Yes most of us (99+%) are not doing nuclear containment welding and never will. However I would be willing to bet that 95+% of us want to do the best we can and do not want to do a full circle as you state in which we have to go back and fix things that we have built that have subsequently broken because of, bad design, bad choice of material for the application, bad weld with all that is contained in that (porosity, penetration, not enough metal in the weld to hold it together, bad weld thickness, bad leg length, you name it).

Most of us want to build something that does its job/function and never has to be repaired due to poor construction. At least I know I do. I do not have the time to design, build, finish and then have to go back and repair my mistakes in an iterative process as you suggest that you do. I am not retired, maybe you are and have the time, but I will never have the time to go back and fix something that I should have done right the first time.

I am far from perfect in my knowledge and skills and thus if I can find someone who has the knowledge and the skills that I can learn from and is willing to help me do it right, not just do it so that it works for a little while and then breaks, I am eager to get that knowledge. Here on TBN we are fortunate that there are so many folks that have a variety of skills, that are professionals in their field and that are willing to share that knowledge. Welding is just one of those skills but it seems that it is one that you have chosen to focus your ire on.

If you do not want to partake of the knowledge that is being offered fine, but there are many of us that value it and are thankful for those that are willing to share their experience. It is obvious from all that you have posted over many, many posts that your experience involves build, use, repair, use, repair, and repeat. Most people do not like to follow that process. We may do it at times but it is not a goal. With you it seems to not only be an expectation but a goal. That is fine but it is not mine or many other folks first choice of how we operate.

I do not have time to keeping fixing things, thus I want to do it right the first time.

You said that "Furu and Dragoneggs are learning and their experience will come if they build stuff. Well I will try to post some pictures of stuff I have built later this evening.
Knock on wood but none of my stuff has broken yet and I hope it does not break either because it was done right the first time.

 

[MinnesotaDaveChalmers]

Furu - I've been trying to decide what to write on the subject but you've contained it all in your comments.

 

[Arc weld]

Don't waste your time Shield Arc. As long as Sodo has the "good enough" attitude, he will never improve on his welds or his workmanship. That's welding 101 Rule #1! If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right! Rule #2 Do the best job you can no matter what the job is. :anyone:

"Shield I think you could tone it down a bit, and maybe could learn something too. I think your biggest problem is you have no need to learn, you're not designing, building, all that's done before you strike an arc. Your scenario is a pretty small part of what many of us do (with a welding machine). Which is draw, cut, fit, weld, test, paint and use, then re-design a little paint again and keep moving. And have time to eat and sleep too."

Seems to me I recall Shield Arc doing a lot of cad/cam designing and recommending good programs for it. That pretty much blows your theory that everything is done for him. Sodo you really need to do more reading and less typing. I think Shield Arc learns new stuff everyday. In particular, I think he's learned restraint.

 

[haveissues]

This thread just keeps getting more preposterous. Who knew a person welding things that simply can not and do not break is in no position to comment on the quality and strengths of a weld? To say a person whos welds come apart often is more knowledgeable that someone that does in correctly the first time is completely absurd.

 

[Arc weld]

:thumbsup::thumbsup::ashamed::laughing:

 

[Sodo]

You guys are grasping. I have not had trouble with my stuff breaking.

Furu good luck with those hopes, some people can actually accomplish that, they are naturals. Not many people, but they're out there. You could copy other peoples tested designs, that's a good way to ensure success.

Here's a some stuff I welded. Tell me where it's gonna break.

 

[Arc weld]

"I have not had trouble with my stuff breaking."

Well then why not do a better job so it isn't breaking?:laughing::laughing:

 

[Sodo]

Arc, there's LOTS of pics to choose from. Step out on a limb and tell me where these projects are going to break, and then we can talk about what might be "a better job".

 

[Furu]

You said that "Furu and Dragoneggs are learning and their experience will come if they build stuff. Well I will try to post some pictures of stuff I have built later this evening.

Well I said I would post a few pictures so here are a couple of my projects.




Welding table



Aux hydraulic system mounted on tractor behind the seat.
Don't want that ever breaking as hydraulic fluid injection under the skin/back of neck/head is really bad. Had help with Tig welds by SA before he taught me to Tig weld.



Hitch for moving trailers with tractor



Multipurpose carryall designed: in this picture configured with spray boom attachment designed and built tank not yet mounted in this picture.



Skid designed to meet DNR forestry fire trailer requirement will be mounted on trailer after 350 gallon tank and pump installed. Waiting for trailer to be painted. See next





Trailer designed and sized for above requirement after failure to find a manufacturer who could supply requirement. Still to be painted need good weather and time off.



Pole tongue WD bracket designed after commercially available design will not fit on tongue of portable sawmill. Still need to finsh.

I would never just post these to show off but you stated that dragoneggs and I will learn IF we build stuff. Well I do and I suspect that Dragoneggs does as well. I don't feel the need to "yap" about a project unless there is a benefit that I feel can be gained by others. Most of my stuff is a one off type project and just does not apply to anyone else. I have posted on a few projects and will in the future just not on all of them.

 

[ThomasH]

Furu - AMEN! Well put. I don't see anything going on here but personal insults from a guy that seems to loathe people that help others.