Maybe that is why I hate to go in either one. You can never get anyone that knows something about what you are looking for, and if you do, they dont last long. My daughter worked at home depot, she has an associates degree in design, they put her in plumbing, after assuring her she would be drawing the kitchens in their design area..........she does not know plumbing from electrical, but she sure does know how to CAD. They lied to her, gave her less hours than promised, and basically treated her like a nothing. She quit! If I never had to walk in one again, it would be too soon for me. Problem is they ran the best Home Quarters out of our area with their pricing, or under pricing. Now at this store, you can not find someone that knows what or where the nails are!
Warranty Work, Distribution, Better Understanding!
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Junkman
Super Member
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Isn't the Wal-Mart down the road a <font color="blue"> local retail </font> ? They are also a huge employer for the local work force and they pay taxes into the local governments tax base.
Just my thoughts. I hate going there myself. )</font>
They pay minimum wage, seldom have full time employees, and offer no heath insurance, retirement benefits, etc. They drive out the small businesses and don't add anything to the local economy. The money is shipped to Arkansas twice a day. Try supporting a family when you work at Walmart. They are not what I call a company that is good for the local economy. Others might not see it this way, but I have personally seen and heard the horror stories from the employees. If they are such a good employer, then why are they in the middle of the largest class action employee law suit in the history of this Nation?????
Just my thoughts. I hate going there myself. )</font>
They pay minimum wage, seldom have full time employees, and offer no heath insurance, retirement benefits, etc. They drive out the small businesses and don't add anything to the local economy. The money is shipped to Arkansas twice a day. Try supporting a family when you work at Walmart. They are not what I call a company that is good for the local economy. Others might not see it this way, but I have personally seen and heard the horror stories from the employees. If they are such a good employer, then why are they in the middle of the largest class action employee law suit in the history of this Nation?????
Inspector507
Super Member
Junkman,
I never said their business practices/ideals were the best.
But maybe that low wage, part-time job that someone just got is enough to get them off the local welfare/assistance roles and start making something of themselves. There is a lot of tax money being paid into the local tax accounts, rest assured.
But really, this original post was not about them and I won't send it reeling into the dust anymore than I already have. It will be locked soon if we continue here /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I never said their business practices/ideals were the best.
But maybe that low wage, part-time job that someone just got is enough to get them off the local welfare/assistance roles and start making something of themselves. There is a lot of tax money being paid into the local tax accounts, rest assured.
But really, this original post was not about them and I won't send it reeling into the dust anymore than I already have. It will be locked soon if we continue here /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
JerryG
Super Member
I usually try not to get into much of this Wal-Mart stuff, but.
Yes, most employee are started at minimum wage with yearly raises and good employees get incentive raises.
No, there are lots of full time employees and lots of part timers.
All W/M employees are offered insurance after 180 days.
No, they can have retirement if they so choose.
What amazes me is every time something comes up about W/M, all kinds of false information is alway spewed out. And Yes there are many things that I don't like about W/M, but there are many things that I do like.
Yes, most employee are started at minimum wage with yearly raises and good employees get incentive raises.
No, there are lots of full time employees and lots of part timers.
All W/M employees are offered insurance after 180 days.
No, they can have retirement if they so choose.
What amazes me is every time something comes up about W/M, all kinds of false information is alway spewed out. And Yes there are many things that I don't like about W/M, but there are many things that I do like.
Deerlope
Veteran Member
Heck I can't even get the dealer(local) where I bought mine to do anything. I plan on keeping it until there is about 3 months left on the warrenty and then getting another brand. Had 2 JD's previous so will probably go back to them. This Kubota has got more gear noise than the 40 year old JD I retired and then sold.
If you people think Kubota needs to step in with regional sale limits or caps on pricing you will be waiting a long time. If you think they will force pricing limits the ones that will suffer is the customer, not the dealer etc. [censored], the dealer would want it. More $$$ in their pocket for doing nothing. I do not mind a dealer making a profit but taking advantage is a different story.
All this talk about Wal-Mart (WM) is nothing new. It happens now and nothing changes. Plus it is not WM. Example, my wife works as a buyer for Agway for the Northeast, same thing there. This is retail. The good parts about Agway is we get items at cost or free items. I asked for a few bags of Pro-mix and the next day I had a truck full of broken bags for free. Don’t think that Agway lost money. They got full value back from the manufacture. So there are happy since they got paid and I am happy.
You could all be right but the manufacture that sells to WM does not care nor its distributors. They make more profit off one-sale then 50 sales on this little shops. It might not be right, but that is retail. Plus WM is not going any ware soon and is guaranteed sales while the little shop are in question.
Everyone whines about WM but when it puts dollars back in their pocket they are not complained then. Or these little cities complain about it but when it puts millions back in there state and local budget, where is all the complainers now?
Benefits and wages are always getting less-and-less. Again, that is nothing new. Welcome to the year 2004. This has been going on for over 5 years where I work (aerospace). The CEO’s etc want to meet their budget and the only way is layoff, lower wages or contract the work. You think they are going to take $$$ out of their pocket so some person can have a job, nope. That is corporate America and it is getting worse.
Back to topic here, In the end the ones that need to change there “old-time belief” is the local Kubota dealers that think they run the show. Remember you need customer to buy “your” product. No customer equals no money in. You need us [customers] more then I need you. Why pay some “MSRP” when I can call some friends of friends or go to another dealer (down the road or out of state) and get a favor for some % off? Plus it is just some numbers on paper. You can say you paid retail and then get a “owner loyalty” discount, “first time tractor” discount etc. Call it what you will. It is all fake money. As long as the dealer made a percentage there are happy.
If not, they will go online or down the road for a cheaper price for same product.
What I do not get is why is this warranty issue is such a big deal. I bring my cars in for repair, if I do not wish to do it, and Mercedes-Benz or Lexus never asks if this is warranty or where I bought it. When I used to bring my gsxr1100 for repair no one asked where I bought it. When I had my JD 3 dealers never asked about it.
So far I think some Kubota dealer need to get a wake up call.
All this talk about Wal-Mart (WM) is nothing new. It happens now and nothing changes. Plus it is not WM. Example, my wife works as a buyer for Agway for the Northeast, same thing there. This is retail. The good parts about Agway is we get items at cost or free items. I asked for a few bags of Pro-mix and the next day I had a truck full of broken bags for free. Don’t think that Agway lost money. They got full value back from the manufacture. So there are happy since they got paid and I am happy.
You could all be right but the manufacture that sells to WM does not care nor its distributors. They make more profit off one-sale then 50 sales on this little shops. It might not be right, but that is retail. Plus WM is not going any ware soon and is guaranteed sales while the little shop are in question.
Everyone whines about WM but when it puts dollars back in their pocket they are not complained then. Or these little cities complain about it but when it puts millions back in there state and local budget, where is all the complainers now?
Benefits and wages are always getting less-and-less. Again, that is nothing new. Welcome to the year 2004. This has been going on for over 5 years where I work (aerospace). The CEO’s etc want to meet their budget and the only way is layoff, lower wages or contract the work. You think they are going to take $$$ out of their pocket so some person can have a job, nope. That is corporate America and it is getting worse.
Back to topic here, In the end the ones that need to change there “old-time belief” is the local Kubota dealers that think they run the show. Remember you need customer to buy “your” product. No customer equals no money in. You need us [customers] more then I need you. Why pay some “MSRP” when I can call some friends of friends or go to another dealer (down the road or out of state) and get a favor for some % off? Plus it is just some numbers on paper. You can say you paid retail and then get a “owner loyalty” discount, “first time tractor” discount etc. Call it what you will. It is all fake money. As long as the dealer made a percentage there are happy.
If not, they will go online or down the road for a cheaper price for same product.
What I do not get is why is this warranty issue is such a big deal. I bring my cars in for repair, if I do not wish to do it, and Mercedes-Benz or Lexus never asks if this is warranty or where I bought it. When I used to bring my gsxr1100 for repair no one asked where I bought it. When I had my JD 3 dealers never asked about it.
So far I think some Kubota dealer need to get a wake up call.
Junkman
Super Member
Mike..... keep me in mind the next time you get a load of free fertilizer and have more than you can use. I promise, I won't tell where it came from.... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I will even pick it up at your place.. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
MikeFromVA
Silver Member
All of the talk about warranty work on TBN is interesting to me. I am getting very close to making my decision on my first tractor (2 weeks). I have purchased several cars and NEVER had any warranty work done on them. Are tractors more prone to having warranty issues? I don't plan on purchasing orange, green or blue based on the available warranty - am I being naive?
Also, I know that it no longer applies, but at one time WM was just a local "mom and pop" store. It was just incredibly successful. I rarely shop there because I don't find the ones in my area well maintained.
Also, I know that it no longer applies, but at one time WM was just a local "mom and pop" store. It was just incredibly successful. I rarely shop there because I don't find the ones in my area well maintained.
