RayH
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Grade 8,
I sent you a PM concerning your upgrade.
I sent you a PM concerning your upgrade.
Want to upgrade from a B7610
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( boy am i in a pickle! (and losing sleep over this)
I put 30 hours on my B7610 and have decided that it is too small for my needs. The B7610 has done an amazing job with all of my chores, but it seems that the more jobs i finish, bigger and HEAVIER jobs pop up. Jobs include, clearing brush, grading driveways, and mowing. Would like to move to the new B2630.
My questions are: has anyone been in this situation? what are your recomendations, stay with the B7610 or cut the loses and upgrade? The B7610, 60"MMM, and 352 loader came to 15,200. What can i expect to get on a trade? (just installed a toothbar, and the tractor looks better than when it was delivered)
Thanks in advance!
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I'm trying to avoid making the same mistake you did. The B3030 is about $4,000 more than a B7610, or about a 37% price increase. 37% seems like a lot. So does $4,000 when you are looking at a tractor that is about $10,500. However, if you are also getting lots of extras, like TnT, hydraulic box scraper, landscape rake, tiller, mower, toothbars, pallet forks etc., now you are in the mid $20k range, and the $4,000 increase is more like 15%. Add a backhoe and it drops even lower. What do you get for that 15%:<ul type="square"> [*]25% or more capacity in just about any function you can think of. All of your attachments will work better.
[*]Postion control.
[*]3 range HST
[*]adjustable cruise control
[*]telecoping 3PH lift arms
[*]tilt steering
[*]4 point instead of 3 point backhoe attachment
[*]rear hydrualic outlet[/list] The above is a bargain for just 15% more. All but the last two are sure to make your life easier, even if you feel you don't need them.
So you probably think I'm sold on the B3030 over the B7610. Not really. There's always convincing the CF0 why I am spending $4k more than I first told her (actually $10k more than I first told her, and $4k more than I told her the 2nd time).
The other issue is that the B3030 might be too big. I have a 5' by 10' landscape trailer that should be able to handle the B7610 (minus all attachments) without much problem. I can always put attachments on pallets and make a separate trip. The extra 500 lbs of the B3030 pushes it beyond my comfort zone for the trailer, especially for the 65 mile trip to the dealer. Then there is also the issue of fitting into some of the smaller spaces in my yard, and lawn damage from the extra weight. Bottom line is I'm willing to pay the extra $4k for the B3030 features, but I'm not so sure I'm willing to take on the extra size and weight.
I put 30 hours on my B7610 and have decided that it is too small for my needs. The B7610 has done an amazing job with all of my chores, but it seems that the more jobs i finish, bigger and HEAVIER jobs pop up. Jobs include, clearing brush, grading driveways, and mowing. Would like to move to the new B2630.
My questions are: has anyone been in this situation? what are your recomendations, stay with the B7610 or cut the loses and upgrade? The B7610, 60"MMM, and 352 loader came to 15,200. What can i expect to get on a trade? (just installed a toothbar, and the tractor looks better than when it was delivered)
Thanks in advance!
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I'm trying to avoid making the same mistake you did. The B3030 is about $4,000 more than a B7610, or about a 37% price increase. 37% seems like a lot. So does $4,000 when you are looking at a tractor that is about $10,500. However, if you are also getting lots of extras, like TnT, hydraulic box scraper, landscape rake, tiller, mower, toothbars, pallet forks etc., now you are in the mid $20k range, and the $4,000 increase is more like 15%. Add a backhoe and it drops even lower. What do you get for that 15%:<ul type="square"> [*]25% or more capacity in just about any function you can think of. All of your attachments will work better.
[*]Postion control.
[*]3 range HST
[*]adjustable cruise control
[*]telecoping 3PH lift arms
[*]tilt steering
[*]4 point instead of 3 point backhoe attachment
[*]rear hydrualic outlet[/list] The above is a bargain for just 15% more. All but the last two are sure to make your life easier, even if you feel you don't need them.
So you probably think I'm sold on the B3030 over the B7610. Not really. There's always convincing the CF0 why I am spending $4k more than I first told her (actually $10k more than I first told her, and $4k more than I told her the 2nd time).
The other issue is that the B3030 might be too big. I have a 5' by 10' landscape trailer that should be able to handle the B7610 (minus all attachments) without much problem. I can always put attachments on pallets and make a separate trip. The extra 500 lbs of the B3030 pushes it beyond my comfort zone for the trailer, especially for the 65 mile trip to the dealer. Then there is also the issue of fitting into some of the smaller spaces in my yard, and lawn damage from the extra weight. Bottom line is I'm willing to pay the extra $4k for the B3030 features, but I'm not so sure I'm willing to take on the extra size and weight.
Seapea,
i still can't decide if i need to jump to the 2630-3030. but for right now the 7610 is doing a good job. i agree with you about potential problems the size and weight increase may present. anyway i'll be getting married soon and my tractoring days look like they are finished!
about trailers... i would invest in a new trailer for your tractor.
i have a 6.5'x14' dual axle, 7000lb w/brakes for my 7610. i would recommend a 6.5'x12' for a loader and mmm. a 6.5x16' for a TLB setup, or if u wish to haul say a loader and BB. remember, any truck can get a trailer moving but how are you going to stop quickly if you need to?
let me know if u wanna see some pics of the projects i am working on to give you an idea of the 7610 limitations.
later on
-Chas
i still can't decide if i need to jump to the 2630-3030. but for right now the 7610 is doing a good job. i agree with you about potential problems the size and weight increase may present. anyway i'll be getting married soon and my tractoring days look like they are finished!
about trailers... i would invest in a new trailer for your tractor.
i have a 6.5'x14' dual axle, 7000lb w/brakes for my 7610. i would recommend a 6.5'x12' for a loader and mmm. a 6.5x16' for a TLB setup, or if u wish to haul say a loader and BB. remember, any truck can get a trailer moving but how are you going to stop quickly if you need to?
let me know if u wanna see some pics of the projects i am working on to give you an idea of the 7610 limitations.
later on
-Chas
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( about trailers... i would invest in a new trailer for your tractor.
i have a 6.5'x14' dual axle, 7000lb w/brakes for my 7610. i would recommend a 6.5'x12' for a loader and mmm. a 6.5x16' for a TLB setup, or if u wish to haul say a loader and BB. remember, any truck can get a trailer moving but how are you going to stop quickly if you need to? )</font>
Buying a bigger trailer means replacing our minivan with something with more towing capacity. Otherwise I'd gladly make the investment.
i have a 6.5'x14' dual axle, 7000lb w/brakes for my 7610. i would recommend a 6.5'x12' for a loader and mmm. a 6.5x16' for a TLB setup, or if u wish to haul say a loader and BB. remember, any truck can get a trailer moving but how are you going to stop quickly if you need to? )</font>
Buying a bigger trailer means replacing our minivan with something with more towing capacity. Otherwise I'd gladly make the investment.
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I have a B7510. Sometimes I wish I had a larger tractor but then sanity returns and I realize that the 7510 does everything I ask it to do. Sometimes it takes a little longer than it would if I had a larger bucket on the FEL or could pull a wider box blade but
<font color="red"> it is a hobby for me so why be in a big hurry?
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<font color="red">That's right-Seat time is Seat time so why rush it?? </font>
<font color="red"> it is a hobby for me so why be in a big hurry?
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<font color="red">That's right-Seat time is Seat time so why rush it?? </font>
BoneheadNW
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( anyway i'll be getting married soon and my tractoring days look like they are finished!)</font>
<font color="black"> </font> Am I missing something? Why are you contemplating a bigger tractor if your tractoring days are finished?
Bonehead
<font color="black"> </font> Am I missing something? Why are you contemplating a bigger tractor if your tractoring days are finished?
Bonehead
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was wondering the same thing MYSELF /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif perhaps he could explain?
I am not sure which tires you are running. But I have a B7500 with AG tires and this tractor out pulls the New Holland 1520 with Industrial tires that I sold 2 years ago.
A New Holland 1520 is aprox. 1000 LBS. heavier then a Kubota B7500. The reason I sold the New Holland is it tore up turf too much. So I went with a lighter tractor. I have found the AG tires have a much better bite then industrial tires. I also have turfs that is used just for mowing.
What might help your situation is get a set of AG tires and have them filled with calcium. You will find a huge differance pulling equipment with the 3 point hitch or digging with a front end loader. I believe the cost was aprox. $600.00 with rims. It is much cheaper then taking a loss selling the B7610 and then purchasing another tractor. If you have turfs or industrial tires keep them for mowing.
I have found from my experiance a tractor that is 1000 LBS heavier then what you have does not mean it will pull more. The key is getting a narrower tire with an agressive tread to break the soil to get a deep bite and that is what AG's do so well.
For ultimate traction Try AG's with calcium and chains.
A New Holland 1520 is aprox. 1000 LBS. heavier then a Kubota B7500. The reason I sold the New Holland is it tore up turf too much. So I went with a lighter tractor. I have found the AG tires have a much better bite then industrial tires. I also have turfs that is used just for mowing.
What might help your situation is get a set of AG tires and have them filled with calcium. You will find a huge differance pulling equipment with the 3 point hitch or digging with a front end loader. I believe the cost was aprox. $600.00 with rims. It is much cheaper then taking a loss selling the B7610 and then purchasing another tractor. If you have turfs or industrial tires keep them for mowing.
I have found from my experiance a tractor that is 1000 LBS heavier then what you have does not mean it will pull more. The key is getting a narrower tire with an agressive tread to break the soil to get a deep bite and that is what AG's do so well.
For ultimate traction Try AG's with calcium and chains.