Any folks here have any experience with this type of post installation device:
Oz-Post P5-850 5 inch Square Anchor
Oz-Post P5-850 5 inch Square Anchor
Vinyl Fence Question
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My first impression was "why?" but then I saw it was from NJ....the garden state with lots of rocks. I guess if you need a jackhammer to put in a fence that would be as good a solution as any. I'm not sure how well it would hold up in deep soil when it gets wet. All the vinyl I have is set in concrete. I'd also be concerned about using if for a gate post. Mine are vinyl filled with concrete/rebar, set in concrete. They don't move at all.
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We put in my brother's vinyl fence but we put the posts in concrete and then filled the post with concrete a couple of days later. He has the 6 foot solid fence with the last foot being lattice. With the wind blowing, I'm not sure how well that post thing would work. It seems that with the vinyl post on the ground it would be able to move too much. If you only needed to use one of those here and there it might be ok. I've just seen how much force wind can put on a solid fence.
The other issue is that you need some leeway when installing the vinyl fence since the sections are only so long. It may be tough to get it exact. We put the fence up as we went digging holes and had to make adjustments by moving the post to get the fence to look right.
The other issue is that you need some leeway when installing the vinyl fence since the sections are only so long. It may be tough to get it exact. We put the fence up as we went digging holes and had to make adjustments by moving the post to get the fence to look right.
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I put up almost 200' of 7' tall vinyl fence a few years ago. My fence is 6' solid privacy with 1' of top lattice work. All my posts are 10' in length. As per the installation instructions I bored a 12" diameter hole 36" deep. I then used three 80 pound bags of quickcrete mix around each post. The next day braces were kept in place but I added two 10' lengths of #6 rebar inside the post and then filled them to the top with about 3 and 1/2 additional bags of quickcrete I'd mixed up by hand in a wheelbarrow. That comes out to each post having 520 pounds of concrete in them plus two 1/2" pieces of rebar the entire length of the post.
As you can see from the date in the pic, I finished the fence in 10/03. Since then we have had several bouts of severe weather. Twice we had storms that packed winds of over 70 mph. During one of those storms the wind blew out the section between two posts. This area is between my house and my pool house and the wind seems to really blow between the two buildings. During the worst storm when the fence between the posts blew out, I watched the event from a window. The actual fence had a huge bow to it from the wind and the posts were moving some. I would think that if you used the simple "spike" as a fence post, you'd be picking up your fence and fence posts quite often if you live in an area that gets any spring or summer thunder storms. I can't see those spikes holding up to much wind nor can I see the relatively small attachment area to the post holding up very well.
As you can see from the date in the pic, I finished the fence in 10/03. Since then we have had several bouts of severe weather. Twice we had storms that packed winds of over 70 mph. During one of those storms the wind blew out the section between two posts. This area is between my house and my pool house and the wind seems to really blow between the two buildings. During the worst storm when the fence between the posts blew out, I watched the event from a window. The actual fence had a huge bow to it from the wind and the posts were moving some. I would think that if you used the simple "spike" as a fence post, you'd be picking up your fence and fence posts quite often if you live in an area that gets any spring or summer thunder storms. I can't see those spikes holding up to much wind nor can I see the relatively small attachment area to the post holding up very well.
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Dargo said:
Dargo, I'm sure you know there is a setting on your camera that will not embed those distracting dates in your photos.
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I have white out on the LED screen of the camera, but the darn date still shows up on the pictures when I transfer them to the computer.
Uh, okay, laugh if you want, but it was only a couple years ago that I realized that when you pass your pointer over those pictures on your computer that all that neat info pops right up; even the time you took the pic! Man, what will they think of next?!
Uh, okay, laugh if you want, but it was only a couple years ago that I realized that when you pass your pointer over those pictures on your computer that all that neat info pops right up; even the time you took the pic! Man, what will they think of next?!
The reason I thought of using these is because of my soil type, ie, the lack thereof. I just cleared a pad for a new equipment bldg (30 x 60) and a 76,000lb Link Belt trackhoe was having problems with our rocky ground.
The fence will be 3 rail vinyl, and augering will not work. If I backhoe the holes, each hole may get huge after removing the beach-ball rocks in every one. This does not sound like its gonna be fun
The fence will be 3 rail vinyl, and augering will not work. If I backhoe the holes, each hole may get huge after removing the beach-ball rocks in every one. This does not sound like its gonna be fun
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RFB said:This does not sound like its gonna be fun
Ewww! Yep, I definitely agree with you. At least the fence you're talking about won't require as much strength. Good luck however you go!
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Well, despite the current postings on this board, I'm going to say I bought them at Lowe's. It was a while back but I think they were less than $20 each.
I used a piece of #8 rebar to start the hole (mainly to see what was in the first 15" of ground) and then had a short piece of 4x4 to drive the post in. Watering the area before hand probably would have helped but since I didn't, I went through several chunks of 4x4 driving them in the hard ground.
The winds we've had this year have knocked down some very big fir trees and these shelters (x4) have held up.
I used a piece of #8 rebar to start the hole (mainly to see what was in the first 15" of ground) and then had a short piece of 4x4 to drive the post in. Watering the area before hand probably would have helped but since I didn't, I went through several chunks of 4x4 driving them in the hard ground.
The winds we've had this year have knocked down some very big fir trees and these shelters (x4) have held up.
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Larry,
How did you pound in the stakes? With a sledge?
$20+ per stake is expensive. But so is a PHD. I want to put up a HT fence around our land which would be around 5,000 feet. One problem I have is clearing the line to build the fence since this is all in heavy woods. The DR Mower, cane knife, and machete has cleared about 2500 feet. I would LIKE to have the whole line cleared so I could get the tractor in to do the mowing. Its not hard to do the mowing with the DR. AFTER its been cleared the first time. But to get the JD in there is going to mean quite a few trees are going to have to be cut down which is a lot of work.
I'm wondering if these stakes could function as the holding posts for a HT fence.... I might have to try on some smaller projects.
Later,
Dan
How did you pound in the stakes? With a sledge?
$20+ per stake is expensive. But so is a PHD. I want to put up a HT fence around our land which would be around 5,000 feet. One problem I have is clearing the line to build the fence since this is all in heavy woods. The DR Mower, cane knife, and machete has cleared about 2500 feet. I would LIKE to have the whole line cleared so I could get the tractor in to do the mowing. Its not hard to do the mowing with the DR. AFTER its been cleared the first time. But to get the JD in there is going to mean quite a few trees are going to have to be cut down which is a lot of work.
I'm wondering if these stakes could function as the holding posts for a HT fence.... I might have to try on some smaller projects.
Later,
Dan
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Dan, I did use a sledge with several sacrificial 4x4's about 10" or so. Now I only put 16 in the ground so that wasnt so bad, I'm not sure I'd want to run a 5000' fence using the same method.
As far as running a fenceline through the trees, I've still got to put one on the south side of my property and I will clear a path wide enough to drive the little tractor the entire length. I can reach all my fences with the tractor. Makes for easy maintenance.
As far as running a fenceline through the trees, I've still got to put one on the south side of my property and I will clear a path wide enough to drive the little tractor the entire length. I can reach all my fences with the tractor. Makes for easy maintenance.
