Variable Frequency Drive questions

   / Variable Frequency Drive questions #31  
I have two VFD's,, one on a lathe (I got the lathe off the guy I mentioned in a previous post)

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The other is on my drill press.

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You can see the VFD behind the drill press, on the wall.

Variable speed, motor protection, simple to use,,
adequate torque.

You can see one of them, to the left of the lathe,, small, too.
 
   / Variable Frequency Drive questions #32  
A friend had an entire shop of 3 phase machines, and only single phase coming into the house.

He had one motor that was larger than any of the 6 or 8 machines.
That 3 phase motor created the 3 phase that would run any of the machines.

He simply had a switch that could connect the 2 wires of 220 to the extra motor.
He had a pulley on the extra motor, and would wrap a rope around the pulley.

He would give the rope a good pull, like starting a gas engine.
With the motor spinning, the single phase 220 switch was turned on.

The motor would then run.
While the motor was running, it was inducing the needed voltage into the third leg.

Three wires were connected to the same terminals as the incoming 220.
These three wires would have the 3 phase that ran any of his machines.

What I just described is the poor mans rotary phase converter.
It works.

One cool feature,, wrap the rope on the motor pulley in reverse, then pull.
Once started, the 3 phase output would run the wired equipment backward.

Sometimes, reverse is needed,, cheap, too. (actually, free!!)

This is exactly how a rotary phase converter works,,
instead of a rope, it uses the "kick" of some capacitors to get the extra motor spinning.

One other negative,, it uses a little extra electricity,,
Who cares, this is a one man show,, not a production shop.

When you get to the point that the machines are producing a $6.5 million income per year, get the power company to bring you real 3 phase.

Until then, enjoy the 3 phase that will cost as little as $100 to get you up and running.
Yeah, a rope start RPC is pretty basic. An improvement on the rope start is a small single phase motor and a couple pulleys. The small single phase motor is mounted on a hinge. A vee belt connects the small motor to the big 3 phase motor. Starting the small single phase motor and then adding tension to the belt by prying on the small motor gets the big 3 phase motor spinning. Then supply power to the big motor and it keeps spinning while also supplying 3 phase power. Remove tension from the belt and flip it off with a stick. This will supply 3 phase to other motors but the voltage won't be very well balanced. This unbalanced voltage can make motors run hot. And produce less power. With a few capacitors and a voltmeter the voltage can be balanced close enough to keep the motors cool and happy. With a start relay and 2 or 3 capacitors each machine can be its own RPC. I have done this myself. But the OP is not comfortable with solutions like the preceeding and I still think a VFD for each machine would be the cheapest, easiest, and fastest solution for the OP.
Eric
 
   / Variable Frequency Drive questions #33  
I've got a toolroom CNC lathe and a knee mill, both 3 phase. So when I move shop to my current location with 1 phase elect, I went with a 20hp phase converter from American Rotary. With shipping it was $2k. This was back in 2016.
 

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