using hay equipment with DK50

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whitmerlegacyfarm

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2010 Kioti DK50SE HST w/ 401 Loader
Hey all. wats everyones thoights on me using my dk50 to pull a small square baler? im interested in making our own hay since we have 15 acres of fields that i just waste fuel brush hoggin? i just lookin to pick up an older baler n rake. i hav old sicle bar my pap kept in great shape. thanks all. im new to this farmin stuff.
 
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I am not familiar with the square balers but I used to bale hay with an AC that at every hill the front wheels came off the ground and I had to use the brakes to turn. The 50 horse power I would think would bale hay and you will need a rake if using the sickle bar. My biggest thought is the hay what is the quality of what you have been cutting?
 
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I used to bale with a JD 14T and a 22 hp Yanmar. I pulled a flat rack behind the baler, too. If the ground is relatively flat, you won't have any problems.
 
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I know someone using a newer DK45 to pull a JD 14T baler. Does good, but say a 50 may do a little better. It is their main hay tractor.
 
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Hey all. wats everyones thoights on me using my dk50 to pull a small square baler? im interested in making our own hay since we have 15 acres of fields that i just waste fuel brush hoggin? i just lookin to pick up an older baler n rake. i hav old sicle bar my pap kept in great shape. thanks all. im new to this farmin stuff.

A square baler shouldn't need much tractor at all.......we used a 52 HP tractor to run a 4X5 round baler for years.

Cutting large fields of hay fast with big modern mowers is where you really need HP because you can put heavy loads on the drivetrain for sustained periods of time. We have an old 62 HP MF/perkins that needs rebuilding due to mowing hay......but it took 10,000 hours.

Most of the old sickle mowers were designed for smaller tractors.....your 50 HP tractor should be complete overkill for baling 15 acres with small hay equipment.
 
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Hey all. wats everyones thoights on me using my dk50 to pull a small square baler? im interested in making our own hay since we have 15 acres of fields that i just waste fuel brush hoggin? i just lookin to pick up an older baler n rake. i hav old sicle bar my pap kept in great shape. thanks all. im new to this farmin stuff.

I operate a Massey Ferguson 124 baler (2-twine small squares) with my 2008 Mahindra 5525 (54 hp engine, 45 hp pto) with no problem. The 5525 is heavy enough that you barely feel that baler doing it's thing back there.
 
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We just had a Revolutionary war reenactment right close to my store. My cousins hosted it. (second largest one in the US) anyhow I got a call to help out with a broken round baler and to my surprise, As I drove up I saw a lil orange tractor pulling a new Holland square baler!
As I got closer....sure enough a Kioti CK25:shocked: Yes it was pulling and dropping square bales! Wow!
Wish I had my camera. It was one of my customers, so I did tell him we needed pictures.
 
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Just check the hp (requirements of the implement). Older small square bailers can run with minimal power. Round bailers, on the other hand, especially anything over 4x4 and net wrappers require serious power. Newer small square bailers also require power. Example, my 575NH high capacity square bailer requires 75 PTO input for maximum production. That's not to say that you can't run with less but in heavy windrows, it requires more power. A 575 would really load your engine and possible cause damage.

Other problem is if you bale squares with a wagon on the bailer, you need a tractor with enough weight to safely pull the bailer and wagon plus the flunkies loading the wagon. A 4000 pound tractor pulling a 3500 pound bailer plus a 4000 pound almost loaded hay rack is asking for big trouble, especially on hilly ground.

You don't pull a tandem axle equipment trailer with a Volkswagen Jetta. It's all about common sense and safety.
 
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for 15 acres you can just drop the bails then pick them up no need to form a train
 

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