Used 2620 vs new?

[Hayduke]

Hey There All,
Been a lurker for a while now. About to purchase 20 acres. 1/3+ woods, 1/3+ old overgrown pasture and 1/3- some grass/lawn/buildings/long driveway. Looking for a machine to do general chores, work firewood, clear the drive, mow and tend the pastures and a large garden. 25-30hp and 4x4 seem to fit the bill.

I've found a used b2620 locally, 4x4/HST 2010 with a little under 250hrs. Included is what looks like a 60" belly mower, 4' kodiak bush mower and a BX2763A front blade. Asking 13K.

Wondering if buying a used unit in good shape makes sense over buying new with the 0%/60 deal. I would like to get a FEL as well but that blade might come in handy for larger snow we get now and again.

 

[Fiziksgeek]

Each new model that comes out will have improvements. You'll have to decide if those improvements are worth paying for a new tractor.

The more detail you can give about the tasks you want to do will help folks give you their opinion of what size machine would fit your needs best. With 20 acres my initial impression is that a B series is a bit small, but maybe not.

You didn't mention a front end loader on that used B2620...does it have one? Personally, I would not buy a tractor without a FEL!

 

[George2615]

Welcome to TBN......................

Seems to be about the going price with the included attachments. There are several 2620's on Tractorhouse in that asking price range. Most include a loader and few have the belly mower but none I saw have a snow blade or bush mower.
Some things to think are:
No warranty on used.
How was it taken care of?
Was it always serviced on time?
The 0%/60 deal sounds good but a similar tractor with the same options would be a lot more.
I'm sure some Kubota people will pop in with their views to assist you.

 

[Hayduke]

It does not include a FEL. From the pics and just chatting with the owner it looks very well cared for, but I haven't seen it personally yet. Mainly just getting thoughts on the new vs. used. There are both Kubota and JD dealers near me so shopping new wont be an issue.
As far as work needed, I imagine bush hogging the two old hay fields, some light mowing as there isn't a lot of lawn, maybe a couple acres max, clearing snow from 300' or so of a gravel drive (not a lot in central Ohio), I cut firewood so helping haul and run a splitter would be handy and general chores around the property, and putting in a decent garden. In the future I could possibly see having goats in one of the fields. Chickens, rabbits, ducks will happen in the spring (there is about a 1/2 acre pond too).
I have access to a big backhoe and a friend who runs it like a wizard should that ever be needed.
Talking with folks who tend larger land, they warned me about the Tier 4 emissions stuff on the newer 30+ HP equipment and were of the opinion that the systems haven't had enough time to work out the bugs and are a hassle. Their opinion was the smaller machines or older machines before all the regen systems were in place.

 

[s219]

You really need an FEL for what you describe, and so that makes me think you'll be better off buying new and getting exactly what you want, versus a used machine that might not have exactly what you need. But if you really do need a front blade, mid-mower, and bush-hog, then price up an FEL for the 2620 and see what the total cost will be.

The newer B2601 that replaced the 2620 has some nice upgrades.

For snow removal, you may be just fine with a rear blade, which is fairly inexpensive. I use a rear blade to clear my 600-700' gravel driveway, and it does very well. It was a $350 blade from Tractor Supply. Not what I'd want for heavy dirt work (already have a box blade for that) but fine for snow removal.

 

[Hayduke]

Yes a FEL is something I see being very handy and would look into buying one if a used machine didn't already have it.
I also like the idea of the taller compact tractors to use in the woods clearing brush and working fire wood.

 

[varmint]

Adding a FEL is probably cost in-efficient, and it's hard to imagine not having one. One with SSQA can easily handle a front plow, a grapple for brush work, or pallet forks. All very handy stuff.

I also think it is definitely on the small side of what you will want. You might consider a used L model, depending on your total budget- a clean used tractor with the SSQA loader, like a L3130, can be found for under $15000. Remember, take care of it, and it will simply be a working investment you can mostly recover when you no longer need it.

 

[Will_C]

You are talking yourself into a B2650 or perhaps an L2501 (not sure if MMM is an option on the L or if you could use a RFM.) Those models are physically bigger than a B2620. I have a B2620- I had some reasons for buying it when I did, and have been happy with it, although I would like one of the tractors I previously mentioned for the uses I have now.

Will

 

[tractchores]

I have a '10 2920, which I bought used. its a very reliable machine and would be good for what you describe. However you definitely want a FEL. You could see if you could buy one seperately, but they can be hard to get stand alone. Otherwise used is a great way to save money, these machines are built really well so warranty isn't much of a concern. The financing is a good deal on new, though I'd do the math to see what your saving VS a used one. For me mine was a year old when I bought it and I only saved about 1500 - 2k, but a few years later am still happy with that decision.

 

[GPintheMitten]

I bought mine used with 110 hours. The previous owner decided not to build in the country. It had a fel and 60 inch mid mount mower. Warranty was never an issue.

I recommend you find one with a fel.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

If your paying cash it may be an OK, not great deal. If your borrowing money to buy it then the new will not be much more money, if any.
Also price your Kubota dealer installing a FEL on the used and add to the total price. You want the heaviest duty bush mower you can buy if you plan to use it. A tractor without a FEL is a ....well, I wouldn't want it for my only tractor but OK if I had another one with FEL.
A rear finish mower is easier to attach, detach and service and less expensive than a MMM.
I had a B2620 and it was a fine machine for a small property. Had a L3240 at one time which weighed twice as much as the B7800 that I traded for it and weight Is your friend in the tractor world for larger properties and heavier work.
The B will be nice but on the light side for your property size and needs. It will work for awhile and can always be sold/traded for a different machine later if well maintained and not lose a lot of money as long as you get a good price going in. Price new with what you want and then decide what works best for you for the difference. No FEL.:thumbdown:

 

[Hayduke]

Adding a FEL to a used machine w/o one looks to be cost prohibitive. Dealer is going to get back to me on pricing but also mentioned the current 0%/60 with some good cash back/rebates on the L series so I might be heading there to test a couple out. The lawn has some light landscaping but nothing too fancy, mainly just along one side of the dive, behind the house and around the pond. Path through the woods and mowing the fields are much larger areas.
Am I getting into any issues with the emissions stuff jumping up into the L series?

 

[Fiziksgeek]

The only down side to going bigger is going to be weight on the lawn areas, not sure if this is a concern to you or not. The smallest L, the L2501, has no fancy emission stuff, but weighs over 2400 lbs. Add a mower and operator and you can easily be over 3000 lbs. Just something to be aware of.

I would recommend you think about what size mower/brush hog you want for those fields first, because that will determine how much horse power you need.

 

[Hayduke]

I don't really care about the grass, don't want to tear it up but I just mow when it gets shaggy and that's it, nothing special. I'll want to bush hog the fields a couple times a year to keep them from getting too overgrown and might use them down the road for hay or hops or clearing space for another out building, small home site, etc.
Thanks all for the help!

 

[Hayduke]

Well we are moved in and I'll be pulling the trigger on a new machine this week. After much back and forth I've settled on a new 2650 with the QD FEL. Now just deciding on the details; like the 54" or 60" bucket, 60" or 72" MMM. Also adding a 60" brush cutter for the small fields.
What are the hive's thoughts on having the third function valve installed now vs later? I can possibly see its usefulness down the road. Also are the tele link ends and ratchet lift rod options good additions to toss in?
TIA. This site has been a wealth of knowledge...

 

[Fiziksgeek]

I would go with the larger bucket, but I tend to move a lot of loose materials..mulch, firewood, etc.

I would say that if you are financing, get the accessories you want now and roll them into the deal. You can't finance the later on.

 

[Hayduke]

It will be 0%/60. Base machine with loader quoted at around 18.5k.

 

[varmint]

Getting whatever you think you will want/need up front is good advice- in almost all cases, buyers are glad they did. Debating whether to add it later, at greater cost, isn't much fun. Extendable links, and the third function, or for less money, a set of rear remotes (you can always run hoses up to the loader arms for under $100 and just a little time, which gives you a lot of flexibility down the road, generally are good investments. You already decided on the SSQA, which is smart. Get the bigger bucket, just don't fill it as much if you are picking up gravel or something really heavy.

 

[Fiziksgeek]

Getting whatever you think you will want/need up front is good advice- in almost all cases, buyers are glad they did. Debating whether to add it later, at greater cost, isn't much fun.

I'll agree to that. It may or may not be more expensive later, but you cannot finance it later.

It will be 0%/60. Base machine with loader quoted at around 18.5k.

The price sounds about right...but you didn't give enough detail to know for sure. Generally speaking, price out the machine with the options you want on the website, and start with 10% off that price....

 

[vacman]

I settled on this model too and it should be delivered Friday. I went with the 60" bucket because I think it will be better for snow removal and allow me to carry more mulch etc. I can always carry less than a full bucket of something really heavy. I kept implements for my last tractor so the only thing I bought with this one is a set of forks. I thought about a third function but I've never needed one before and it cost $800.00 so I passed. I like the idea of a diverter which I can do myself and will be less expensive. I paid just under $18,300.00 delivered but I got mine using the last rebate structure that ended 10/31/15 so your cost might vary.

Good luck.
John