Buying Advice tym, branson, mahindra

[shogan]

I was set on branson 4020, local dealer small mom and pop use to be MF long time ago now selling more stihl weedeaters and chain saws than tractors. Start thinking maybe branson does not have a strong network. So I look at Mahindra appear to be more of those around, go drive a 4025. Like it, a little tough to shift with shifter in the middle and going from gear to gear is tough, nice big wheel cover for sitting on, tractor seems stout. 4010 had roomier floor area shifter not in the middle but L M H shifter did not work in parking lot it would go into N but not L. Some weird rattle in front end. Bottom line it didn't compare to the 4025 and priced the same. 18,900

Then I stop by a TYM they were not on my radar at all. Dealer use to sell JD.

He shows me the TYM T500 with the perkins canterpillar engine which he keys in on the selling point. It weighs a little less than the mahindra, appears a little smaller, great turning radius open floor plan, easy shifting (though not synchronised). Smooth tractor 18,500 4wd with loader and it's a 50hp engine with 40 at pto. Body casing not as stout but the engine panels are easy to get off, and frame seems real stout with loader going back to rear wheels.

thoughts

 

[shogan]

Well I'm on the fence, Can't find any info on the tym t500 it has a 50 hp perkins cat engine 4 wheel drive and loader 5 year warranty and weighs in pretty good above a branson but below the mahindra. Filters are easy to change but over all smaller machine than the mahindra. $18500

Found a used mahindra 4500 2 wd drive with loader and 500 hours 10K. Don't need 4wd but it would be nice in a pinch.

New Mahindra 4025 40 hp engine 4 wd and loader 18,900 bigger tractor but tough shifting (means less likely wife will use).

A new branon 4020 would be around 19K local 1 close dealer

Any info on the t500, thoughts on the line up. Just looking at photos and the floor lay out it looks very much like the mahindra 4010

 

[shogan]

Am I the only one that sees a lot similarity between the New Holland Boomer 50, the tym t500, and the mahindra 5010?

 

[RDrancher]

Well, just my .02. I've had a chance to look at a couple 50hp Mahindras at my NH dealer. They look pretty beefy with excellent loader specs. The tractor specs on the TYM look to be pretty good, but my gosh... they sure need to work on their website. Without a dealer nearby its the only place for info. The 50hp cab model I think I might like to know more about has photos of the switch panel and a hydraulic valve? How is their HST pedal setup?...How about the shuttle shift?...Are their steering brakes on the right side like the goofy Kubota setup? The loader lift specs do look really wimpy though for a 50hp tractor.

As far as Branson....who?

 

[Biggreenavalanche]

While you're looking look at the 35 series from Mahindra...really like my 4035 and have heard the 5035 is even more of a beast...my 4035 was about $24K out the door with FEL and an extra remote kit...mine is a PST, HST is a bit more...my girlfriend drives it with no problem (she had no prior experience with tractors !)...would also advise you to look at the kubota Grand L series...good luck with whatever you buy...oh yeah, having a good reputable dealer is paramount regardless of brand, ask around about your local dealers before the purchase...

Rich

 

[shogan]

Gear driven 9fwd 3 rev basically, dual pumps 1 for power stearing1 for loader, loader had 2934lbs at full height at pivot pins. didn't think that was to bad mahindra 4025 has 2866, tractor data has the 5035 lower slightly, branson 2100,

Don't think the forward reverse was synchronised so had to bring it to full stop to shift from forward to reverse. You can shift between gears 1,2,3 as long as you don't change between L M H for that you have to stop.

Also the tym loader appeared faster than the mahindra.

Electric PTO, 1 pto speed, 40 hp at PTO

And the TYM is 18500 delivered he did say another 200 to put beet juice in the tires.

 

[RDrancher]

TYM's site shows a T503, but a T500 isn't listed so I'm not sure that we're talking about the same model. The loader it lists for the T503 is rated at 1788 lift capacity. TYM Tractors - LT500 Specification. Mahindra's site shows the 5035's loader at 2700 lbs Mahindra 5035 4WD Shuttle - Mahindra Tractors - Heavy Duty, Value Packed Tractors. Built Tough to Last with a 5 year Warrantyand the 4035 at 2400 lbs Mahindra 4035 4WD Shuttle - Mahindra Tractors - Heavy Duty, Value Packed Tractors. Built Tough to Last with a 5 year Warranty

Edit: In a search for the T500 there were photos on the TYM site but no info I could find. I did find one for sale listing 2100 lbs for the loader. http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/grq/3264544875.html

 

[shogan]

Yes they have nothing listed on the t500 I have a black and white photo copy given to me by the dealer. And it has 2963 loader capable and it had an lt550 loader on it.

You won't find the lt550 on the website either but it's on their loader brochure. Basically the lt550 comes in just shy of the lt600 go figure. I can buy a creature that doesn't exist on the web, has great specs, and good price.

 

[shogan]

here's 1 NEW TYM T500 4x4 Tractor W/Loader

 

[RDrancher]

You don't find that a bit odd?

I think I'll leave it at this. There are only two TYM dealers located within 100 miles of me. The closest mainly deals in refurbished Japanese tractors and the other one has a link on the TYM website that goes to a publishing site. TYM's own website doesn't even list the tractor or loader your looking at as even existing. That sounds like a business model with the word FAILURE built right into it. Dealer support far outweighs a "good deal". How long has your dealer been a TYM dealer? Will he be around for support in ten years when you need parts?

Probably the oddest thing about this entire thread is that you're asking questions about the TYM tractor on the largest tractor forum in the world and not one TYM owner has responded.

 

[AroniaFarmer]

never heard of the TYM500 I know a guy with a 503 and it seems like a good tractor

 

[Smallplot]

I have a TYM T603 and it has done everything asked of it. Loader will lift more than tractor needs. Frame, especially with loader is rock solid. Put around 900 hours on it this past year.

 

[shogan]

The t500 he said is kind of a no frills utility tractor that they are running a special on. I grabbed a 503 brouchure and he said no that's not it. So he went and made a copy of the 1 brochure he had.

The tractor had a sub frame that ran to the back of the tractor seemed impressive. He has sold them to the school and all kinds of local places but he's been around in the town for a long time and folks trust him.

Guess I'll go back and put it side by side a t503 and see what is different besides the transmission

I really think it's a rebranded mahindr 5035 with perkins engine and some other rebranded loader. The engine sounded sweet. The

 

[ALKY]

I think TYM builds some Mahindras. My local dealer told me he wouldn't stock the TYM built ones,but could get them. I own a TYM 233,not junk,but wouldn't buy another.

 

[pete-mi]

TYM makes all the "10" series for Mahindra's and have for over 10 years. TYM uses Mitsubuishi and Perkins engines and Mahindra uses Dae Dong engines. The TYM models also have more standard features rather than extra cost options. The TYM's in the 30hp size and larger are full cast frame tractors like most large farm tractors have been made for over 50 years. The smaller units have a solid steel frame that the engine and rear end are attached to like some others in the same hp size do. The T500 is TYM's more basic tractor with out all the bells and whistles. They have not been promoted as much as they should have. I know they had some management changes last year and have been making good progress but on some items it has been slow. The website being out of date on some items is one and on the home page it says it should be updated soon. I would guess the T500 will be on then. The T500 is the basic version of the T503.

 

[shogan]

First off let me say anyone in the state of OK. If you are in the market talk to Chris at Wright Tractors, LLC Tractors, Implements, and Trailers - Home. He had a t500 listed so I figured I would call him and ask some questions. I told him straight up I was out of the area and calling just to ask questions. He said, can I call you back and did within 3 minutes. He then proceeded to tell me the origin of the t500 as well as describe the managment history of tym. Going into great depth about where and why we see things like websites not updated. In a nutshell TYM tried to manage the usa market without adequate american management team. Then hired some that ended up being a bad crop. And now has a new team in place. He feels comfortable with the future of tym. And added he felt like it is one of the best built tractors. That says a lot coming from a guy half way across the country with no dog in the fight.

The t500 is an old model that tym originally built for mahindra, and then put it in their lineup. It's not being carried forward. He said future parts should not be problem because except the sheet metal, the tractor shares most of the same componets as other models. It's still called a 2012 but is actually older. Pete-mi was on tract but now I have the rest of the story.

It's not a t503.



Hope this clears up confusion.

 

[shogan]

Well went back today and re-drove the mahindra 4025. It was a nice big tractor and felt like it. And it looks like an good old tractor. It has some nice features like upgraded air ride seat and cat I or II hitch (reversible), and great big rear fenders all things I like. The PTO was not as easy to turn off basically required using the clutch. Then I went and drove the TYM T 500 it was just as big but the tractor was so much smoother. Don't know how to explain it. The engine ran smoother, the shifting was smoother, a much tighter turning radius, the lay out of the controls, shifters, pedals all worked well together (and fit me), everything was easier. More like a modern tractor.

Either would have been good tractors. I just liked the tym better.

So I inked on the TYM T 500 with loader. It was a lot of tractor for 18,500.

 

[Airedale]

Hey Shogan,
Congratulations on your new machine.

Al

 

[pete-mi]

Welcome to the TYM family :welcome:

 

[GPintheMitten]

Gear driven 9fwd 3 rev basically, dual pumps 1 for power stearing1 for loader, loader had 2934lbs at full height at pivot pins. didn't think that was to bad mahindra 4025 has 2866, tractor data has the 5035 lower slightly, branson 2100,

Don't think the forward reverse was synchronised so had to bring it to full stop to shift from forward to reverse. You can shift between gears 1,2,3 as long as you don't change between L M H for that you have to stop.

Also the tym loader appeared faster than the mahindra.

Electric PTO, 1 pto speed, 40 hp at PTO

And the TYM is 18500 delivered he did say another 200 to put beet juice in the tires.

I've never heard of any vehicle that could go from forward to reverse without stopping.