TYM 574 power beyond rear remote w/backhoe

[MaineBarn]

Yesterday I stopped in at a TYM dealer and the salesperson said the 574 could have up to 3 rear remote. 2 were standard. I said that sounded great so I could have tilt and turn and a hydraulic top link by getting the optional remote. He said that when a customer gets a backhoe one of the rear port sets is configured for power beyond and that it wouldn't work.

Was he correct? If configured for a backhoe, is one of the rear ports always either on/off and therefore couldn't be used for anything but like a wood chipper or stump grinder? So if getting the standard 2 sets of ports, would a operator not be able to use both chute rotation/deflection adjustments on a snow blower?

It seemed weird I hadn't heard of this before but he was very convinced that is how TYM machines have to be setup.

Thanks

 

[Balazar]

I have a T574 with a backhoe. One of my remotes has a detent that is used for the backhoe. It seems to work perfectly fine for hydraulic cylinders too.

 

[Tinhack]

I've got three remotes on my Ford but when I use an attachment that needs two, I have to disconnect the one of the TnT cylinders--Usually the tilt. I bought a hydraulic solenoid diverter I plan to install when the weather warms up. It will allow me to use one valve to operate either the top cylinder or the tilt cylinder and still have two remotes available for my ditch flail mower.

I added one to my Kenbota when I got the grapple. It works great there too.

 

[5030]

You can have as many 'remotes' as you want on any tractor, so long as it has a hydraulic pump, sufficient hydraulic fluid sump capacity and adequate flow. All comes down to plumbing and having the physical space and appropriate bracketry to add them as well as space in the operators station for the controls which can be mechanical or electric actuation.

That applies to all systems, power beyond, closed center or open center systems. The differences between them dictates the plumbing.

 

[Balazar]

To clarify on my T574, The "B" remote has a detente that allows you to push the lever all the way forward and it stays there keeping pressure on that remote. This allows me to run the backhoe. I have hooked a normal hydraulic cylinder up to it and it works just. I have no idea what your salesperson is talking about.

 

[5030]

Sounds to me like the drummer wants to sell him additional sets of probably expensive remotes as well as the labor to install them....

I know on my Kubota the additional sets are expensive if not factory installed which mine are and I have flow control on the top set as well. Ordered it that way when I bought it. In my case the tractor was built for me in Japan. Also got the 2 speed 540-1000 PTO, which I use when I run my grain auger, again factory installed.

Only thing I didn't get was front fenders and should have.

 

[Balazar]

If you want more remotes, a much cheaper solution is a "hydraulic multiplier" from Summit Hydraulics. It basically multiplies the number of remotes but you can only use one at a time. For most applications it works very well.

 

[MaineBarn]

To clarify on my T574, The "B" remote has a detente that allows you to push the lever all the way forward and it stays there keeping pressure on that remote. This allows me to run the backhoe. I have hooked a normal hydraulic cylinder up to it and it works just. I have no idea what your salesperson is talking about.

I also had no idea and ultimately went with a different brand. He was 100% certain that with 3 rear hydraulic ports factory installed, it would only have 2 that could be used on the implement. He went down the rabbit hole of "well if you had a chipper on the back and there was a hydraulic feed you could use the power beyond for the chipper and one of the remotes for the feed. But no clue what the third feed would be used for."

Sounds to me like the drummer wants to sell him additional sets of probably expensive remotes as well as the labor to install them....

I know on my Kubota the additional sets are expensive if not factory installed which mine are and I have flow control on the top set as well. Ordered it that way when I bought it. In my case the tractor was built for me in Japan. Also got the 2 speed 540-1000 PTO, which I use when I run my grain auger, again factory installed.

Only thing I didn't get was front fenders and should have.

That was the funny thing. I had said well can we set it up so all three are functional and he couldn't come up with a solution even with other parts at the dealership.

 

[Balazar]

I also had no idea and ultimately went with a different brand. He was 100% certain that with 3 rear hydraulic ports factory installed, it would only have 2 that could be used on the implement. He went down the rabbit hole of "well if you had a chipper on the back and there was a hydraulic feed you could use the power beyond for the chipper and one of the remotes for the feed. But no clue what the third feed would be used for."

That was the funny thing. I had said well can we set it up so all three are functional and he couldn't come up with a solution even with other parts at the dealership.

I guess he was a misinformed salesman and lost your business. It's just a valve stack. You get the third remote kit and it goes in the stack. Pick weather it has a detente or not.

 

[setyte]

Does anyone know if there is a parts bundle for adding another remote? I have a backhoe and I ordered a top and tilt so I need to add the third OEM remote. Dealer said it was 1200$. I'd like to shop around to see if I can find it cheaper but I'd rather not have to order each bolt separately.