Truck Question - and quite SAFE!

[r0GuE]

I am purchasing a 800lb gun/fire safe. I have the pick of many freinds to borrow trucks from, and all will say yes. However, I don't want to harm their trucks. IS there any trucks not rated for such a load. The smallest is a ranger.

See.. safe! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[Bird]

Any of the pickups will handle 800 pounds, although that's a pretty fair load for a Ranger. This past week, I had 1350 pounds of concrete stepping stones in my Ranger, and in my opinion, that was overloaded, but I only had about 10 miles to go on streets where the speed limits were 35 and 40 mph so I had no problem.

 

[Cliff_Johns]

I think any actual truck would carry 800 pounds (how could it be a truck if it couldn't even carry 4 men sitting in the back?), but what I would worry about would be denting the bed. The lighter trucks are lighter all over, and the bed of the pickup might dent pretty easily, but a sheet of 3/4" plywood should distribute the weight and take any abuse from setting it down and trying to get it back out.

Cliff

 

[texbaylea]

A gun safe is fairly tall so I would go for a full size pickup and preferably one with a headache rack give more support to keep it vertical. Also use 2" load straps.

Vernon

 

[RobertN]

I would not be worried about the truck. Worry about the helper to get it out of there! 100lbs/each for a large clumsy object will push it; that would be 8 people...

Once it is out of the truck, you know how to roll it on dowels or pvc, like the Egyptians moved the big rocks for the pyramids?

 

[frank_f15]

I think any truck should handel an 800lb load,
question is how are u going to load and unload it? and get it where it needs to go? better have a few extra hands, and mabey a dolly or 2 /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Gomez]

Where did the Egyptians get PVC? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[BigDave]

I sat in a lecture in college where the speaker claimed that the ancient Egytians were the greatest metalurgist's in the world. She went on to say that there is nothing new in material science that the ancient Egyptians didn't already discover. Unfortunately, I think half the audience believed her. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

[BigDave]

Oh, I forgot to give an answer for the poster: I put a load of paver stones weighing about 1400lbs in my S-10. I knew it was over loaded, when I notice how low the tires were sitting. I put some air in them, and drove the thirty miles to get home. I don't think 800lbs should be problem at all.

 

[Birdhunter1]

My gun safe was a tad over 900 lbs. and it came home in the back of my 2004 F-150. A good bit of advice for loading and unloading, set it on it's side. Something that big standing up is an accident waiting to happen in a pickup truck, raises the enter of gravity very high and it would be very easy to tip over in a turn and destroy your truck bed sides. Most place will be able to get it to your truck no problem, set it on the ground and tip the top onto the truck then get several guy to push it it. Whenever you are unloading push it out and have a few guys to drag on it and at the breakpoint wher it wants to go down just slide it out and down. ou'll end up with it leaning on the tailgate and resting on the ground, tip it up onto a dolly or cart and take it where you need to.
Mine went in a garage and where i unloaded it off the truck 3 of us drug/slid/pushed/pulled it 15' across the floor to it's new home.

What kind did ya get?

 

[r0GuE]

I did this once before at my old house, but I was just concerned because then I had use of a HD truck. The trick is to lay it back and lift and push. That way, you are only lifting perhaps 300. Same for out. a refreidgerator dolly is the ticket. Actually, it sits in the truck on the dolly (laying on its back).

I'm not looking forward to the job, but it really isn't too bad. Now that I live in a rach, at least I'm not climbing it upstairs!!! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Been there.. done that..

 

[r0GuE]

Champion V-25

 

[Varmintmist]

Rogue, Hey I have a truck and my tractor is rated for way more than 800 lbs.

Only thing is I dont have a trailer so we would have to unload it at my house /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Where did you get it?? off of 356 or out near County line road??

A decent gun safe is soon to be a purchase for me. Unless of course you want my help /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[v8dave]

The truck may be able to handle the weight but will the tail gate?

There have been recalls on tailgate "chains" by several truck manufacturers because the chain/cable gave way while somebody was sitting on the tail gate. The cable swedge rotted out and allowed the tailgate to drop under load.

Take the tail gate off and leave it at home. Just don't scratch it up when taking it off.

A tip for tilting a load like that into a pick-up bed. Probably not completely meaning full for a safe though--its already rigid enough. If you aren't using a referigerator dolly, get a sheet of plywood and place it across the back of the item being tilted in. It will help distribute the item's weight across the plywood and thus keep from denting/scratching the item you are rocking into the truck. It also makes it easier to slide it in and out.

 

[r0GuE]

Got it out near County Line! I love that place. Good folks and nice place. Got my first one off 356 but they don't offer that brand anymore and I don't care for the replacement brand.

 

[MossRoad]

<font color="blue"> Where did the Egyptians get PVC? </font>

At their local PSC... Pyramid Supply Co. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[RobertN]

It is not very well known but it was a common irrigation supply used for getting water to the pyramid sites /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

They used logs of course, but the technique is still very applicable /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[fishman]

When I bought my safe (weight about 525 lbs), I set it upright at the front of my trailer still bolted to the pallet it was shipped on. I ran two straps over the top of it and ratcheted them down. It was very secure. When I got it home, I lifted it off with my FEL by sticking the toothbar into the pallet and running a strap around the safe, then rolling the bucket back to provide tension (toothbars are great for pallets when you don't have pallet forks). Then I set it down close to the door. I unbolted it and slid it off onto 1.5" pvc rollers. Rolled it to where I wanted it and plopped it down. Then I had a cold beer and worked on memorizing the combination. I did it all by myself so I wouldn't have to share my cold beer. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

If you have a tractor with a FEL available, a trailer might be a better option. If not, I agree that you should take off the tailgate.