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You won't get any ads with the Brave browser. The Internet was never designed to be a forced commercial. U...
I would much rather pay a subscription than look at ads. With a subscription, I am in control of what I consume. With ads, it is whatever the ad company wants you to to consume.And the internet was never designed to have 99% of the content that is now on it. The only reason we can have most of the useful content is either subscriptions or (like this site) advertising. There still is no such thing as a free lunch.
I pay a subscription to my local newspaper, and they run so many ads that the articles sometimes won't load properly. Now they are asking for donations...I would much rather pay a subscription than look at ads. With a subscription, I am in control of what I consume. With ads, it is whatever the ad company wants you to to consume.
We're asking for support during our year-end sustainability campaign because local news organizations have been gutted over the past 20-plus years.
There was a time when the only outlet for advertising was newspapers, magazines, TV and radio. So, one advertising pie with 4 slices. Newspapers generally got the largest slice.I pay a subscription to my local newspaper, and they run so many ads that the articles sometimes won't load properly. Now they are asking for donations...
Yes. However, we don't even get print editions here anymore; I have to go online, to recieve a lesser version. Then it's so laden with ads that I sometimes can't even load the news article. I don't plan to donate even more money.There was a time when the only outlet for advertising was newspapers, magazines, TV and radio. So, one advertising pie with 4 slices. Newspapers generally got the largest slice.
Newspaper subscriptions did not cover the cost of the paper it was printed on. That was all covered by advertising revenue. The more paid subscribers you had, the more money you could charge for advertising in your newspaper, the more money you had to spend on a newsroom with reporters, photographers, editors, etc. And the more money you had to spend on production and delivery expenses.
In the early 2000s, along came Craig's List. Craig's list made its money by charging low fees for Employment ads. They provided free Classified ads. That was the first big nail in the Newspaper coffin, as Classified Advertising was most newspapers' bread and butter.
Anyone remember the huge classified sections in your Sunday papers?
Anyhow, as Craig's List ate into newspapers' revenue stream, other forms of on-line advertising also popped up (literally, pop-up ads). Newspapers went digital in an attempt to reach the on-line audience, where they can only charge pennies for on-line ads VS dollars for printed ads, their revenues suffered even more, and there you go. Print subscribers left in droves for 'free' content on-line (which was usually scoured from Newspaper websites). As newspapers could not afford to print papers, or deliver them to former outskirt customers, their paid subscriber numbers dropped, and they had to charge less for printed advertising. The toilet started flushing on the expenses, and down the tubes they go, one by one.
Advertising is still a source of income for newspapers, but in recent years, for the first time in history, subscriber fees (both digital and print) started to be their largest source of income. And it's pennies VS what they used to bring in. In many cases it is no longer enough to support a robust newsroom and production costs... And they go out of business.
Yes, I mentioned that in the 5th paragraph.Yes. However, we don't even get print editions here anymore; I have to go online, to recieve a lesser version. Then it's so laden with ads that I sometimes can't even load the news article. I don't plan to donate even more money.
$69 per month for home delivery SF Chronicle and now only a few much reduced pages I think someone is making money?There was a time when the only outlet for advertising was newspapers, magazines, TV and radio. So, one advertising pie with 4 slices. Newspapers generally got the largest slice.
Newspaper subscriptions did not cover the cost of the paper it was printed on. That was all covered by advertising revenue. The more paid subscribers you had, the more money you could charge for advertising in your newspaper, the more money you had to spend on a newsroom with reporters, photographers, editors, etc. And the more money you had to spend on production and delivery expenses.
In the early 2000s, along came Craig's List. Craig's list made its money by charging low fees for Employment ads. They provided free Classified ads. That was the first big nail in the Newspaper coffin, as Classified Advertising was most newspapers' bread and butter.
Anyone remember the huge classified sections in your Sunday papers?
Anyhow, as Craig's List ate into newspapers' revenue stream, other forms of on-line advertising also popped up (literally, pop-up ads). Newspapers went digital in an attempt to reach the on-line audience, where they can only charge pennies for on-line ads VS dollars for printed ads, their revenues suffered even more, and there you go. Print subscribers left in droves for 'free' content on-line (which was usually scoured from Newspaper websites). As newspapers could not afford to print papers, or deliver them to former outskirt customers, their paid subscriber numbers dropped, and they had to charge less for printed advertising. The toilet started flushing on the expenses, and down the tubes they go, one by one.
Advertising is still a source of income for newspapers, but in recent years, for the first time in history, subscriber fees (both digital and print) started to be their largest source of income. And it's pennies VS what they used to bring in. In many cases it is no longer enough to support a robust newsroom and production costs... And they go out of business.
I pay $67 per year. That's the new subscriber rate. I used to get it for $50 per year as retired employee, but the sold the company twice and Gannett no longer offers that to past employees of two generation ago owners.$69 per month for home delivery SF Chronicle and now only a few much reduced pages I think someone is making money?
Could be.I'm thinking at 69 per month they want to end home delivery?
Do you remember what the press manufacturer's name was, by chance?One of my first jobs was making press parts for the SF newspaper… we could make them at a much lower press point then the German/Swiss printing press manufacturer…
Had a friend that was the consummate newspaper man… never went anywhere without a pen and notepad in shirt picked and camera in car.
No… it was a long time ago back when the space shuttle exploded… we had two large jobs… one for the printing press parts and another for the space shuttle program.Do you remember what the press manufacturer's name was, by chance?