Trailer Towing question

/ Trailer Towing question #21  
Mike - I have a 97 Lariat that I ordered with the optional trailer towing package. It also has the 7 prong plug and I just assumed it had the brake controller as part of the towing package. The only trailers I have towed did not have brakes so I don't know if it has it or not. Were there instructions in your owners manual about the controller and how to activate it if it was there?
 
/ Trailer Towing question #22  
Jeff, we have found our trailer really only differs one link. This is just to help keep thing level does it really have to change probably not, but I can keep some weight forward and tighten it up a link and she just pulls perfect, no wagging= no pucker factor. Remember check your break settings! and a little weight forward is better than weight to the rear. Probably if our suit cases didn't get loaded in the front we wouldn't be tightening up the chains. I don't bring much but the better half...well.... it's a good thing we did't buy a 28' I'd spend most of the time unpacking.
When you are done loading stand back compare the way your rig sat before and after, if the trailer sits nose down crank it up a link or two if sitting high move your load forward some. If your going a distance take a test drive then... just watch out for fast passing semi trucks and crosswinds.

Tony
 
/ Trailer Towing question #23  
Jeff, I'd take his response as a blow off answer. Even with load equalizing it is important to have the proper tongue weight %. Don't get me wrong, you don't have to have it within a couple of pounds but if it's way off you'll experience some unusual handling. You'll probably be alright just estimating where your car's center of gravity is and loading it in so that point is a foot or two in front of the trailer axles /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 
/ Trailer Towing question #24  
Your positioning of the car is pretty limited. Load engine forward so the weight transfer is toward your truck. From there, I'm guessing you won't have much room for positioning.

Also, make sure you have plenty of chain and binder. It's a different system, but a buddy of mine had a Ford Ranger come loose of a car dolly. He had it bound on both sides, but did not use an auxillary safety chain. The truck amazingly wound up a few hundred feet off the freeway, in an orchard, without hitting the trees. It just had a couple scratches where it went through the chain link fence on the side of the freeway.
 
/ Trailer Towing question #25  
AFter going through more controllers and money than I care to remember the prodigy is by far the best I've ever had.
 
/ Trailer Towing question #26  
I'm not sure what you did but I've had a 2000 Ford Lariat and now have a 2002 Lariat and neither one of them had it. Yes you are right about the fuse but that's not a brake controller. I'm really confused how you got brakes to work on the trailer. What activates them? This is really strange.
 
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#27  
I asked the question about tongue weight again when I reserved the trailer. This guy told me that I WOULD have to be careful that the trailer is tongue heavy but that there really isn't a whole lot of adjustment for and aft I will be able to do concerning the vehicle.

I have also purchased 4 ratchet straps and 4 axle straps each with 10,000 lbs breaking strength and 3000 lbs of working strength. The guy at the place also told me to put my straps to the rear of the vehicle in an X so as to keep the car from moving side to side.

Any other suggestions will be greatly appreciated!/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif I used to drive semis for a while in another life but this is a whole new animal for me.

It's time to say goodbye to my Vette.


Jeff
 

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/ Trailer Towing question #28  
<font color=blue>I'm not sure what you did but I've had a 2000 Ford Lariat and now have a 2002 Lariat and neither one of them had it. Yes you are right about the fuse but that's not a brake controller. I'm really confused how you got brakes to work on the trailer. What activates them? This is really strange</font color=blue>

When I was truck shopping, I thought I remembered something about the truck coming with a brake controller, but searching the ford vehicle & towing guide websites, I came up empty. Maybe it came wired for the controller.

Did see on the website that they dropped the V-10 engine. new 6.0L diesel w/ 325HP & 560ft-lbs torque available in January! Also 5 speed auto trans.
 
/ Trailer Towing question #29  
I'm not sure either! It was actually 2 relays that I installed that were provided in a plastic baggy in the glovebox. There were also some instructions. <font color=red> "Two relays (FOAB-14B192-A & F57B-14B192-A) have been provided with the trailer tow kit for installation. These relays must be installed to the relay box, located in the engine compartment of the vehicle on the drivers side, in order for the trailer tow system to function properly."</font color=red> I put 'em in and was skeptical so took the empty trailer onto some gravel to check. Had a fella watching to see if I could lock the trailer brakes at least a little to see if they worked and he said they did - feels like it when it's loaded too. Don't know what to tell you, but if they didn't work I'd sure think I'd know it going down rocky hill with the tractor loaded on behind my little F150. I still wonder where the surge sensor is and how do I adjust it for sensitivity? I talked to the fella that sold me the trailer and he confirmed it was right --- but you sure got me wonderin' again -- this is the first time I've ever had elect brakes on a trailer so I could most certainly be wrong.... yeah like that's never happened before!/w3tcompact/icons/hmm.gif/w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif I guess I figured it was just part of the factory tow package that I ordered. Now I want to check a lot better. maybe have the wife ride on the trailer watching a multi-meter hooked into the plug to see if I get voltage when I hit the brakes hard/w3tcompact/icons/clever.gif/w3tcompact/icons/eyes.gif/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif you betcha tim
 
/ Trailer Towing question #30  
<font color=blue>Now I want to check a lot better. maybe have the wife ride on the trailer watching a multi-meter hooked into the plug to see if I get voltage when I hit the brakes hard you betcha tim </font color=blue>

There is a serious flaw in your plan. You will be the one riding in the trailer, not wifey/w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif/w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif

This is just a wild guess but: You may not even need the trailer to test it. Simply push the brake & see if you get voltage at the connector.
 
/ Trailer Towing question #31  
<font color=blue>You will be the one riding in the trailer</font color=blue> or at least sleeping in the doghouse/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif <font color=blue>push the brake & see if you get voltage at the connector. </font color=blue> I was guessing you'd need inertia to make the sensor send the voltage?
 
/ Trailer Towing question #32  
Hazmat,
can you provide a link about the V-10. Couldn't find it. Marty
 
/ Trailer Towing question #33  
You'll have that 427 sitting up front. With the "tongue heavy" trailer, you might want the engine and front wheels sitting a bit closer to the front trailer axle than the wheels do compared to the back trailer axle. Seems to me I read or saw where those Vette's were pretty close to 50/50 weight distribution. You could check that on one of the Vette web page forums.

the "X" placement of the straps will minimize side to side sway of the car on the trailer.

Be sure to check everything after 10-20 miles, just like when you drove semi's.

When they hook up the trailer, go over everything yourself too. I picked up a concrete buggy a couple days ago; the guy did'nt cross the safety chains. It was not a big deal, but if the trailer had come loose, the tongue would've hit the ground. If you cross the chains, it can act as a cradle for the trailer tongue if it comes off the hitch. Check the lights, and hitch connection, the safety chains, the breakaway wire. Check the tires. If something happens on the road, it is your resposibility as the driver.

Another idea a guy gave me is to use a locking cross pin for you reciever. He swore by it. He had one of the cross pins with the hole in it, and the hairpin retainer that goes through the hole. The hairpin came loose, allowing the crosspin to come loose. His crossed safety chains were all that saved the four horses in his trailer.

Check too to see if the trailer has a breakaway braking system. If the trailer brakes free from your truck, you want it to stop, not pass you.
 
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It's actually a '65 which had the 396 engine rated at 425 horses. It was only offered for half the year and there were only 2500 or so made. In '66, in an effort to shave a few pounds off the car, the block was bored out to 427 cubes./w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif I'm not too sure about the small blocks but weight dustribution on the big blocks was aweful. If you want a car that handles, don't get a big block!

When I bought this hitch I attempted to find a locking pin for the receiver. Unfortunately the receiver is wider than standard being a class V and none that I found were long enough. Now that I think of it, I hope the hitch place has a weight distribution hitch that is the right size for my receiver. Oh well, at least I got the Prodigy all installed and ready to go.

On a good note, I found out today that I will not have to travel to Ohio from Charlotte, NC as originally expected. I am now taking the car to Knoxville, TN which cuts my driving distance by more than half. It will be a much more casual, relaxed trip.

Jeff
 
/ Trailer Towing question #35  
Marty,

Well since the V-10 isn't listed on the web page I assumed it was discontinued. They do offer a 6.8L V-8.

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.fordvehicles.com/Trucks/superduty/features/specperformance/?featureId=2>Fordvehicles Superduty performance specs</A>

Too bad I promised the wife (under the penalty of death or divorce -- her choice) that my supercrew was going to last 10 years. That new diesel looks like fun.
 
/ Trailer Towing question #36  
Well just found the 6.8L listed as a V-10 elswhere on the site/w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif. I guess quality isn't job 1 on the web site.
 
/ Trailer Towing question #37  
Yes Ford will be continuing with the V-10. There are no immediate plans to discontinue it.
 
/ Trailer Towing question #38  
Hazmat,
That must be a typo............those are the specs for a V-10.
If you do the math on the volume of each cylinderX8, you get somewhere around 330 CID, which is the same as the 5.8L.
Ford tried to reserve a lot of the V-10's for the Excursion, but since thats being discountinued......

Jerry
 
/ Trailer Towing question #39  
Thank god. I love my QUIET non-fuel efficient V-10. It tows my trailer @ 10,000 lbs. quite nicely.Hope to get a new one in 2004 model year. Marty
 
/ Trailer Towing question #40  
<font color=blue>"The guy at the place also told me to put my straps to the rear of the vehicle in an X so as to keep the car from moving side to side."</font color=blue>

Jeff,

I load and strap down a lot of vehicles each week. Whoever told you that was dead wrong. DO NOT cross your straps EVER!

At the very best you'll create a situation wherein you'll have them rubbing against one another creating wear and potential tear away problems. At worst you'll also have those straps rubbing against parts of the undercarriage which are lower than the axles. A sharp edge and a couple flexes of the suspension and your straps are cut. Even without anything that dramatic there is an increased potential of wear and tearing.

Your best bet is to run your straps at a low angle from each axle down to the tie down points and to have those tie down points located so that your straps run slightly outward from the attachment points on the axles.
 

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