Trailer recommendation

   / Trailer recommendation #1  

stumpfield

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2005 MT265B
I need to hauler a 6500lbs mini dozer from the dealer to my property (a 300 miles trip) to save on the delivery cost. A free trailer if I do this instead of having it delivered... I only need to do this "once". I don't want to rent one because I need the trailer occasionally to haul bulky stuff but not even close to this heavy. Will a 7000lb trailer do it? or do I really need a 10000lb trailer? The trailer itself weights about 2000lbs. The tongue weight probably put 500lbs on the truck. So I'm about 1000lbs over the axle rating. Is there a safety factor in the rating? I heard that the axles are designed to handle a lot more. The manufacturer put a lower rating for liability concerns. What do you think?
 
   / Trailer recommendation #2  
you didn't say what your truck was - but if I'm reading right - I think you need to buy a bigger trailer and rent a bigger truck to pull it with.
 
   / Trailer recommendation #3  
Much bigger trailer in my opinion. And a good truck to haul it with.

My opinion is they rate trailer axles like they rate Craftsman electric motors.

When the black smoke starts pouring out, that is what it is rated too....

That much weight can really push you in a bad spot.
 
   / Trailer recommendation #4  
stumpfield said:
I need to hauler a 6500lbs mini dozer from the dealer to my property (a 300 miles trip) to save on the delivery cost. A free trailer if I do this instead of having it delivered... I only need to do this "once". I don't want to rent one because I need the trailer occasionally to haul bulky stuff but not even close to this heavy. Will a 7000lb trailer do it? or do I really need a 10000lb trailer? The trailer itself weights about 2000lbs. The tongue weight probably put 500lbs on the truck. So I'm about 1000lbs over the axle rating. Is there a safety factor in the rating? I heard that the axles are designed to handle a lot more. The manufacturer put a lower rating for liability concerns. What do you think?

You need a much heavier trailer, like a 12,000 or a 10,000 pound, also consider you will be putting other things on it.
I am looking for a 14,000 trailer to haul my 7,000 pound skid-steer and attachments, I would not want to be overloaded at the start and look at what the tires are rated for, that will tell you allot. The trailer I am looking at weighs 2,900 pounds leaving me with a 11,100 for equipment and etc.
Jim
 
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mikim said:
you didn't say what your truck was - but if I'm reading right - I think you need to buy a bigger trailer and rent a bigger truck to pull it with.

I'll be pulling it with a F350 diesel with tow command. I tow a 15,000lb 5th wheel toy hauler often and no problem at all. I think I'm ok with the truck.

I'm only going to do this just once. I've no other need for a heavy duty equipment trailer after this trip but I do need a handy utility trailer in that size for bulky stuff. If I were hauling it everyday, no doublt I will get a much bigger trailer. I just want to know how much head-room is in the axle rating... The tire rating is ok. The frame may flex a little but I don't think it's going to break for just 1 trip. The only thing I'm worry about is the axles and bearings. If it's rated at 3500lb, will it just disintegrate if you load 3600lbs on it?
 
   / Trailer recommendation #6  
stumpfield said:
I need to hauler a 6500lbs mini dozer from the dealer to my property (a 300 miles trip) to save on the delivery cost. A free trailer if I do this instead of having it delivered... I only need to do this "once". I don't want to rent one because I need the trailer occasionally to haul bulky stuff but not even close to this heavy. Will a 7000lb trailer do it? or do I really need a 10000lb trailer? The trailer itself weights about 2000lbs. The tongue weight probably put 500lbs on the truck. So I'm about 1000lbs over the axle rating. Is there a safety factor in the rating? I heard that the axles are designed to handle a lot more. The manufacturer put a lower rating for liability concerns. What do you think?
A 7000# trailer does not have a 7000# LOAD capacity, it has a 7000# GROSS CAPACITY so you have to subtract the weight of the trailer from the 7000# to get you to the load capacity. A typical 7000# trailer weighs between 1500# and 2000# so you are clearly over the capacity of the trailer.

If you only use it one time, seriously consider RENTING a trailer, but rent a 10,000# trailer!

Further, most 7000# trailers are very poorly built, often out of simple angle iron. If someone tells you that there is a safety rating then I think you are being lied too. 7000# trailers are often made by unskilled welders in small shops, there is often no engineering behind them, they just buy some steel and some off the shelf axles, leaf springs, etc and go into business. DO NOT BELIEVE THESE HAVE ANY SUBSTANTIAL SAFETY FACTOR.

I had one, I destroyed it, and I didn't even overload it. Don't risk it, you have too much too lose (load, innocent lives, etc). I would suggest nothing under a 10,000# trailer, that would give you a working load of roughly 8000# capacity.
 
   / Trailer recommendation #7  
While I'm usually ok with overloading some I think you need a 10,000 lb trailer. I would be concerned overloading 3500 lb axles, 7000 lb frame and a light coupler a couple thousand lbs (advertized weights are almost always light and chain & binders weigh something not to mention the little stuff that always finds it's way onto tractors and trailers) for a 300 mile run on the freeway. Too many bad things could happen. Always nice to be able to haul it back to the dealer to get it fixed or over to a friends place too.
 
   / Trailer recommendation #8  
Can you remove the blade and rops to shed some weight? Just a thought.
 
   / Trailer recommendation #9  
Three suggestions. Rent a 10K trailer from almost any big equipment rental yard. You already have enough truck to handle it. That should cost under $100 per day. Anyone renting contractor equipment probably has 2-4 of them laying around.

The second choice is to ask around and find someone with a 10K trailer who will loan you their trailer in exchange for a couple hours work with your new toy. Your cost is for diesel only and the trailer owner gets a great deal too.

Investigate the cost of a flatbed car tower. A large one could handle the 6500# and sometimes they will tow cheaply if it is on their schedule, not yours.
 
   / Trailer recommendation #10  
That's a nice and light dozer. You have plenty of truck but you need something larger than a 7000lb trailer. I have rented a 12000 lb GVWR tilt bed trailer for a measly 50 bucks a day with electric brakes and e-rated tires.

No reason to skimp, the 10k rated trailers only cost marginally more than a 7000 lb version and are built much better in my experience.
 

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